Do you think vegetarians have the right to tell meat eaters they're wrong??!
Do you think vegetarians have the right to tell meat eaters they're wrong??
I think its ridiculous to say s a vegetarian that animals should have the same rights as humans. Its mad. A sheep wouldn't survive "the wild" do extreme vegetarians believe foxes are evil for killing a rabbit or a lion for killing a zebra. My two best friends are vegetarian and strict animal lovers but wouldn't dream on telling me what to do. I believe its a personal choice.
Additional Details3 weeks ago
I think the surviving the wild arguent is a valid point. People want animals to have the right to freedom, what would happen if we let a herd of sheep free??
3 weeks ago
I'm not critisising vegetarians in the slightest i am just refering to some not all. My sister and 3 of my best friends are vegetarian and i don't care. It's their choice but i'm sick of some people judging meat eaters when its their choice and they're doing nothing wrong
2 weeks ago
actually i was refering to a couple of posts on here, thats where my argument came from i didn't make them up!!
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3 weeks ago
I think the surviving the wild arguent is a valid point. People want animals to have the right to freedom, what would happen if we let a herd of sheep free??
3 weeks ago
I'm not critisising vegetarians in the slightest i am just refering to some not all. My sister and 3 of my best friends are vegetarian and i don't care. It's their choice but i'm sick of some people judging meat eaters when its their choice and they're doing nothing wrong
2 weeks ago
actually i was refering to a couple of posts on here, thats where my argument came from i didn't make them up!!
no they don't. They made their choice not to eat meat and should respect other people's choices. or else meat eaters could tell vegetarians they're wrong to eat veggies too. My veggie friends leave me alone and I don't bother them about meat. At my parties, i make tofu meals and salads and stuff for them while my other friends eat good old steak and chips and at their parties, they make sure some alternative is available for me. I don't mind going veggie sometimes so i don't mind when they serve me tofu kebabs and stuff.
No. Veges and vegans have no right to tell me how to live.
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Actually, they do have the right, just as you have the right not to get twisted off by their opinion.
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I agree with you it is a personal choice. For a vegetarian to tell a meat lover they are wrong would be like us telling them they are wrong. I have a few dishes that i like that both can eat. But i tell you i like my steak too. Its just like anything else if we all liked the same stuffit would be pretty boring.
there's many more issues with eating meat...the "but they wouldn't survive in the wild" argument is pretty bogus.
but no, they don't
It's called freedom of speach.
You have your belives and we have ours.
Some of the stuff us vegetarians and vegans have seen is wrong and inhumain. If you don't want to stop earting meat then thats fine. But some of us do. The reason we try to convince people to become vegetairan is becuase of the animals being abused and the way it will affect your health. When I started to stop the meat I lost weight and got slimmer. I have been able to think better and there are so many yummy things to eat. but like I said,if you dont want to then dont. But i dont think comming on this website and asking these kinds of questions are going to affect anything. Think about it,the jahova's whitnesses come to your house all the time and you dont post bullitins about them trying to push their belives in your face.
I believe God said we could eat what we need to survive. Be it animals of the Field or the fruit of the dirt. Who is anyone to contradict to me what God has already spoken.
You ar absolutely right, it's a personal choice, they can mention how good they feel about their diets, so maybe you'll think about less consumption of meat, but that's it!
I personally eat little meat, but not because the animal killing, but because I am not a big meat eater, but you show me that steak and it's gone! MMMMM!
Tell them that keep eating their veggies and you 'll eat what's in your diet, and we can go to lunch together.
I want to see them in a desert without any food but only with a road runner in the flames. Let's see if Miss Hungry won't go for the "leg". he-he-he
The thing is most of these militant vegetarians, forget that the farmers kill kangaroos and bird life to protect the wheat that makes their blood bread. I bet they even wear leather shoes
I'm a vegan by birth (it's a tradition in our family dating to our ancestors)... But, I think it is wrong to make people feel bad for eating what they are used to eating...
I think all those Animal Rights Activists should first take a look at the world around us and do something about Humans killing Humans (atleast they'd make better use of themselves)...
Nonetheless, I am completely against the killing of animals for immaterial purposes like fashion, etc.
Peace.
It's a personal choice. Personal choices should not be pushed on others. Sure you can argue "freedom of speech". That just keeps it LEGAL. It is still impolite and wrong.
Yes, but you have the right not to listen.
Each person has their own right to their opinion. I am not a vegetarian and wouldn't dare force my opinions on others. I hope that vegetarians and vegans are as respectful of me as I am of them.
I may be interested in knowing how they think, I may even ask. But, I still reserve the right to chose to eat meat for myself.
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Why do people like you insist on coming into a section clearly titled Vegetarian & Vegan and you feel like you can get on your soapbox and blabber off nonsense? I don not know a soul that thinks that wild animals should not do what they have to do to survive. Are you just making this stuff up as you go? You are the one that came in to this section, if you don't want to hear our thoughts, then simply don't post here.
They have no more right to tell you what to eat than they have to tell you what political party or religion to choose or how to decorate your house, dress, raise your kids, etc., etc., because what a person does is NOBODY else's business, as long as they aren't harming another human being. It's that simple.
yes, but those poor endangered animals have no other means of nourishment....humans do!!!! so, are you saying that people shouldn't tell murderers or rapists that they are wrong because their path of destruction was a "personal chioce"?
also, why are you judging vegetarians right now, yet saying that they cannot judge you? way to be hypocritical!!!!!!
the wild statement doesnt really make sence.
we have sheep now, its evolution, they did survive to make it to be sheep....so yes.
they probably do better than they would if they are protected....but rabbits, hamsters all fluffy lil animals like that are around.
but your other question...i think people need to be informed as to what (in terms of hormones,quality ,history) is in their food.. but after that then it is up to the individual to make their choise.
Yeah, they do. It's not like you don't have the same right though.
Well, since I became vegetarian, too many people to count have told me that I'm wrong for not eating meat--even some of my own family! How many people have I criticized? Zero. Just from my personal experience, most meat-eaters are more critical to vegetarians than vice versa.
I agree, but I find the worst dictators are the meat eaters. Too many meat eaters feel they have the right to tell vegetarians that humans need meat to get protien. In fact, the average vegetarian is much more knowledgeable about food than the average meat eater.
Yes. if it's something someone believes strongly in then it is their duty to try and share with others the knowledge they have. That doesn't mean you have to be confrontational about it or keep pushing people when they've made it clear they don't want to know. Of course, this doesn't apply to people who come to the V&V section on Yahoo Answers -if you're going to be HERE then you should expect to be preached to about the wonderful world of plant-based diets.
They absolutely have the right - especially here in the US where there is still freedom of speech (despite the current regime).
Your argument is inherently invalid.
1. Vegetarians do not typically believe that non-human animals have the same rights has humans. This is an ignorant fallacy. Often, they believe that non-human animals have feeling similar to humans and deserve to not suffer, as do humans, but they don't expect non-human animals to be tried for murder for eating a fly nor do they believe that every cheetah deserves an apartment in the city with hot & cold water. And, many vegetarians are NOT non-human animal welfarists. Many do not eat meat for religious or health reasons.
2. A sheep COULD survive in the wild. They basically do. And, sheep have been domesticated BY HUMANS. Domesticated animals, like cats and dogs, are not MEANT to survive in the wild. HUMANS have taken that away from them. Most HUMANS could not survive in the wild, should we kill and eat them, too?
3. While "extreme vegetarians" may be saddened by the death of a rabbit at the jaws of a fox, so are 75% of non-vegetarians. However, most "extreme vegetarians" are smart enough to realize that without the death of the rabbit, the fox would die. Humans, on the other hand, need the death of NO non-human animal to survive.
4. Of course it's a personal choice. There is no law being established making it illegal to eat non-human animal flesh. Insinuating otherwise is rhetoric - an invalid argument. However, vegetarians also know that for *their* personal choice, they are better off morally and physically for being vegetarian. Are they not allowed to enlighten others? While some don't know where to stop, is it any worse than the people like "sister margaret" who come into this section and harass the vegetarians? Are they any worse than the people who tell vegetarians that they are "killing themselves" or that "we (humans) are supposed to eat meat" - without any instigation other than "No thank you, I don't eat meat"?
5. "People want animals to have the right to freedom, what would happen if we let a herd of sheep free??" This makes no sense. No one is asking for the sheep to be set free. However, if we discontinue eating non-human animals, those currently in captivity should either be killed humanely or allowed to live out their days "freely" - meaning on a farm without the threat of death and with proper care.
6. You claim that you are sick of being judged, yet you are judging vegetarians. Deny it, but the mere fact that you have taken the time to create this "question" shows that you are juding them. You also have taken the time to present fallacious and non thought out juvenille arguments in an attempt to validate your judgement and views.
In reality, people judge people. Ever watched a reality show an rooted for someone? You've judged them. Ever voted? You've judged them. Ever served on a jury? You've judged someone. So yes, vegetarians judge meat eaters, just as meat eaters judge vegetarians. Don't be threatened by it. Instead, an intelligent person would re-evaluate why it's threatening to them and evaluate the evidence. Decide from there.
Eat meat. Don't eat meat. Whatever. But at least have all the facts and don't use ridiculous arguments to try and validate your meat eating "points".
“It’s fine for you to believe in animal rights, but why do you try to tell other people what to do?”
Everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion, but freedom of thought is not the same thing as freedom of action. You are free to believe whatever you want as long as you don’t hurt others. You may believe that animals should be killed, that black people should be enslaved, or that women should be beaten, but you don’t always have the right to put your beliefs into practice. The very nature of reform movements is to tell others what to do―don’t use humans as slaves, don’t sexually harass women, etc.―and all movements initially encounter opposition from people who want to continue to take part in the criticized behavior.
Q. If you want to be vegetarian, that’s fine. But, don’t tell me what to do.
A. Imagine saying to someone, “If you don’t want to beat your dog, that’s fine. But, don’t tell me not to beat mine.” While we are entitled to believe what we like, we are not entitled to treat others―especially those weaker than us―however we like. If we are responsible for harming others, people have every right to ask that we stop.
Why do people come to my door telling me I should be their religion?
While this can be bothersome, it is their right.
Well,every citizen of these united States are entitled to free speech.It is a vegetarian's choice to become a vegetarian.However,vegetarians shouldn't be bugging meat eaters about eating meat,it is okay to ask them to eat less meat,but nagging them to stop eating all meat is not okay.I am a vegetarian and i don't nag people.I say it is a personal choice,if you choose to eat meat fine,if you choose not to ,fine.It is your choice,that is one of your rights to make decisions for yourself,don't let anyone take that right away from you.
I believe its a personal choice.
If someone asks for my view, they get a logical calm reasoned answer.
Educate people in a non-biased way then let them make thier own decisions based on thier life-values. ( 'tis a true statement for many topics of opinion )
I find ( after 27 years of being veggie ) that i get more insults from meat-eaters than i have even seen from veggies. Other than this VEGETARIAN AND VEGAN forum recently, i've never seen a veggie have a go at a meat-eater.
They have every right to tell us we're wrong, but they have to remember that their actions will have a reaction. We have every right to comment in kind. So have at it fellow carnivores. Fire at will. (I hear Will is a war vegan.)
Nope, I'm a vegan and my boyfriend tells me to shut up if I even begin to preach, or suggest I'm better than someone in some way.
I must say though that think it's hilarious when people talk about how it's 'natural to eat meat' and that we're 'top of the food chain'. Now before all you meat eaters start scoffing, listen up a second.
1) I'll put you in a cage with a hungry lion and allow you to politely explain that you're top of the food chain and therefore cannot be eaten.
2) I'll put you in a field with a zebra with no tools or weapons and make you catch it for lunch (the way nature intended of course), with your 'canines' and 'claws'. Ha ha! Be prepared to get your head kicked in by a very disgruntled zebra. That's even if you can get close enough to the bugger!