Have you looked into the "dangers" of soy?!
Have you looked into the "dangers" of soy?
I serve soy products to my family a couple of times a week and I am still one the fence about some of the stuff I've read about soy being maybe not so healthy. I was wondering how many veg-people here have researched some of the dangers of soy that are being reported and what your thoughts are. I'm not sure how seriously to take the reports, but I also don't want to be one of these people who just blindly accepts what food manufacturers tell me. Here are some links to check out if you're unfamilar with what's being said:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.ht...
http://www.soyinfo.com/dangers.shtml... (more links on that page)
http://www.life.ca/nl/101/soy.html...
Answers:
There has ben a lot of soy bashing going around a lot lately,and a lot of it comes from Weston A. Price,a "non-profit" organization that basically tries to scare vegans and vegetarians back into eating meat.WAP promotes a high meat and dairy diet,they obviously have an agenda,I know they have received some payment from National Cattleman's beef Association at one point or another.Another person who is very critical of soy is Dr. Mercola(http://mercola.com/) ,he also happens to be a member of WAP,the previous helth guru of WAP died at 45.
WAP and other groups who are crtical of soy rely alot on animal testing,which I don't give much consideration to,after all,according to animal testing lemon-juice is a deadly poison,but arsenic is completely safe.Broccoli also kills rats,but it's obviously not the same effect in humans.
"Soy products contain five known classes
of anti-cancer agents, including
phytoestrogens. Natural soyfood sources
of phytoestrogens are recommended as part
of a therapeutic and prophylactic diet
instead of isoflavone supplements, because
the foods contain all the potential
anti-cancer agents ingested by apparently
protected populations of women with lower
rates of breast cancer."
-Sharon Howard, R.D.
Dr. Koop and Sharon looked to the soy-eating
Japanese and Chinese women to find truth:
"Studies of Chinese and Japanese women
indicate that they have one fifth the
rate of breast cancers of U.S. women
and that they consume from 10 to 50
grams per day of soy protein in contrast
to 1 to 3 grams per day consumed by
Americans. This translates to 20 to 80
milligrams of isoflavones consumed per
day by Asian women compared to U.S.
women whose intake is less than 5
milligrams per day."
Now for the real science, thanks to Koop.com:
"Isoflavones are very similar in structure
to estrogen and are able to bind estrogen
receptors, though they exhibit only a weak
estrogenic effect: only one-hundredth to
one-thousandth that of estradiol. Since
high levels of estrogen have been linked
to breast cancer and other hormone-related
cancers, isoflavones may work by binding
estrogen receptors and blocking the harmful
effects of the more potent form of estrogen,
thus functioning as an overall antiestrogen
(Claire Hasler, University of Illinois)."
Fifteen Categories of Cancer-Fighting Plant Chemicals, by
Robert Cohen
In 1991, University of Minnesota Researchers categorized
fifteen classes of phytochemicals in fruits and veggies
that have been identified as cancer-fighting agents.
Typically, each single fruits or vegetable contains one
or two of these "magic" substances, but researchers have
identified one of natures food's which contains an
astounding eleven out of fifteen! Got Soy?
To be negative about soy is to criticize everything good
about the wide range benefits derived from the plant
kingdom. The perfect food is the unfairly-criticized soy.
What's next on the nitpicking nitwit critic list, water?
The fifteen categories:
Allium (includes onions, garlic, leeks, chives)
Coumarin (SOY, vegetables and citrus fruits)
Dithiolthiones (SOY, broccoli, cauliflower)
Flavinoids (SOY, most fruits and veggies)
Glucosinolates (SOY, cruciferous vegetables)
Glyceritinic acid (anise and licorice)
Inositol (SOY, oats, wheat, rye)
Isoflavones (SOY)
Isothiocyanates (Cruciferous veggies)
Lignans (SOY and flax seeds)
Limonene (citrus fruit)
Phenols (SOY and most fruits and veggies)
Plant Sterols (SOY and most veggies)
Protease Inhibitors (SOY, seeds, nuts, legumes)
Saponins (SOY, various fruits and veggies)
Mark and Virginia Messina write:
"Scientists at the National Cancer Institute started
to screen plant extracts for anticancer activity on a
systematic basis beginning around 1960. Between 1960
and 1974, they screened roughly 5,000 plant extracts
each year, and today they continue to hunt for cancer-
fighting plants...We consider phytochemicals to be the
vitamins of the twenty-first century, and we feel that
they are what will distinguish the Second Golden Age
of Nutrition."
(The Simple Soybean and Your Health (Avery Press, 1994,
Steinmetz KA, et. al., Vegetables, Fruit, and Cancer.
Journal of Cancer, Causes and Control, 2:427-442, 1991)
Source(s):
http://www.notmilk.com/
If you really want good information on soy message GreenGhost,he has been using and researching soy since the 60's
http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile?show...
All I know is soy milk tastes like s---!
I READ INTO IT A LITTLE THEN I DECIDED TO DRINK SOY MILK AND BEGIN EATING EDAMAME! I THINK TO MUCH SOY CAN HAVE A BAD AFFECT!! BUT JUST ENOUGH CAN BE BENIFICIAL!! SO EAT SOME BUT NOT TOO MUCH HA HA!
I stopped eating soy long ago. Read all that stuff too.
vegan&proud got it. WAP:
off their front page:
It supports a number of movements that contribute to this objective including accurate nutrition instruction, organic and biodynamic farming, pasture-feeding of livestock, community-supported farms... ...certified raw milk and a ban on the use of soy formula for infants.
::So they work towards farming animals, making a buck off of raw milk..gasp who'd think they want to ban soy formula? they'd probably try to ban soy period if they thought they had a chance in hell.::
The Foundation seeks to establish a laboratory to test nutrient content of foods, particularly butter produced under various conditions; to conduct research into the "X Factor,"
::Sounds a little to synthetic to me::
and of course the soy alert..it screams propaganda.
Soy alert!
::"Confused About Soy?--Soy Dangers Summarized." They start out with trying to identify with you then BAM as soon as they do they throw out dangers summarized. They don't of course throw in the beneficial parts of soy...or chart it next to milk or other dairy and show the maleveolent effects of dairy.::
The above soy dangers and our Myths & Truths About Soy are available in our Soy Alert! trifold brochure for mass distribution.
:: of course the brochure is available for mass distribution. Sounds like nazi germany haha ::
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So whatever..most these anti soy ploys are produced, funded or operated by soy milk competition. The proof is in the fact they focus on soy milk, and rarely if ever (I've never seen it) focus on edamame, tofu, tempeh, miso ect. Soy has been consumed by many cultures dating back thousands of years..some of the healthiest and most 'intellectually well' ones at that. Sure maybe there are hidden dangers, but everything in moderation right? I'll take my chances with soy products..seeing as soy is used in so many processed things, even the meat/dairy industries use it in their products. Hypocrites.
After saying goodbye to
hot flashes
arthritis
irregular periods
GO SOY
After seeing my Dad say goodbye to
gas
constipation
allergies
acid reflux
GO SOY
never had it and probably never will
In the US and certain other Western cultures, they take dairy and little soy. In China and other parts of Asia they take soy and very little dairy.
Where do you think the dairy industry is strong and where is it not?
If you look into medical research done by all the universities around the world they will tell you, in the majority, that cancer rates and other issues like osteoporosis are lower in Asian countries.
Of course I personally try to stay with the traditional Asian soy products and not consume a lot of processed soy foods, since tofu has been used for hundreds of years, while processed soy foods for only decades. As processed foods, they can contain chemicals and other stuff better left out of the diet.
Soy is dangerous to animals. Do you know how many animals are KILLED by farm machinery when they plant and harvest SOY fields every spring and fall? I bet you don't. It's not a pretty sight, fawn legs wrapped around the machinery, etc.
SO, essentially, soy and/or tofu consumers are still contributing to an animals' death. Ironic, for all the high and mighty animal lovers in here, eh?
4 thumbs down, LOL. Does anyone disagree with the fact that animals (young animals, nesting turkeys, pheasants, etc) are killed by farm machinery? Seriously people... If you need proof, I can take you out to the farm.