If Vegans wont eat anything that lives, why do they eat vegetables?.?!
If Vegans wont eat anything that lives, why do they eat vegetables?.?
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Veggies don't have souls!
oh come on!
I don't know. It's them thats missing out on all that nice food and drink!!
Considering there is new scientific evidence that plants have a rudimentary nervous system, the Vegan should not really eat them. Vegetarians too for that matter.
So quorn it is from now on then...
If they didn't eat anything that lives, they would eat dead animals, according to your logic. Don't be daft.
lol...thats a really good question! I dont know. maybe because its grown from the grown and they dont have blood running through them...lol...thats all that I can come up with on that one. But I like a good steak...so I really could care less! lol.
because it is preferable to kill vegetables rather than kill yourself by starvation!
I thought that it was just anything animal product or derived from an animal product, so, while I am a fully fledged omnivore, I do understand the meat and eggs bit but I don't understand the milk, yogurt and cheese bit! - I really don't know why they shouldn't drink milk as there is no harm in that! What on earth do they feed their babies on?
It would be most interesting to hear from a Vegan, here. I do understand that there are some medical reasons for not eating animal products - but it would be interesting to have the point of view of someone who just chooses to be a vegan.
vegans are considered the most strictest of the vegetarians, Vegan Society is a philosophy that seeks to as far as possible and that is practical to protect the animals by not consuming or using any materials from animals..it does not say they do not eat things that live.......some do it for those reasons and some for spiritual and health reasons....
Vegans avoid animal products...that's the definition. No where does it say they eat nothing that "lives". Maybe a dictionary is in order?
As far as the statement boromad made...how clueless can you get? 1 less person? There are millions of people who do not eat meat...do you have ANY common sense?
Read this: http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp... and educate yourself. It shocks me how people can think they know something with no research.
Are vegetables animals? No. Theres your answer.
very good point, however what i dont get is why vegetarians are vegetarians. Like the point you made there still eating living things. Also 1 less person not eating meat wont make a difference in the society we live in. also there missing out on the delicious foods esp. vegans who wont drink milk or eat certain sweets/chocolate.
I'm a vegan and would never eat anything that lives but plants unlike animals do not have a central nervous system and therefore cannot feel any pain when they are eaten. Plants cannot feel and do not have a brain so there is no reason for vegetarians and vegans not to eat them.
Because they want to make the vegetables suffer.
vegetables dont have a brain they cant think feel emotion..ect
When was the last time anyone had a pet carrot?
vegetables are a completely different form of living. they dont have nervous systems or feel pain.
+ to whoever asked about the dairy thing and why milk is cruel check out some other answers. vegans either breastfeed thier child or give it SUITABLE non-dairy formula (not in the style of that couple who killed thier kid)
Vegans have a least harm philosophy. Eat whatever causes the least harm to the planet and other living beings.
I think a better question is that if someone cares for vegetable-based plants, why are they eating animals, which are fed 80% of the world's grain?
i hate it when people say this, you know why, so stop.
Vegans have a very Nobel approach to life and don't see Vegetables as a conscious beings and therefore void of life or without soul and I have the utmost respect for this
They also think because of their love of all life they are superior to all others who do not share the same view (not all you understand but there are a few on here) means that anyone who has a different view to theirs are scum PLEASE understand that most Vegan's do not act nor think like this and as a result deserve the utmost respect It's the SAD FEW EXTREMISTS that spoil they own very Nobel beliefs
It's my personal choice to eat meat therefore I am scum in their eyes, this is were it all breaks down for me on THEIR part.
for example I hate fanatic extremists like the Muslim nutters who feel because i choose a different belief to theirs I must DIE,now most who are Muslims have their belief are WISE enough to know it's a personal choice and so earn respect
Most Vegans I know as friends are remarkable nice,fair and honest, but like a religion you have the sado extremists who feel the need to call quite normal people murders, scum, bullies etc I stood up against this approach of questioning and surprise surprise the narrow minded extremists got all uppity about it because I don't think the same as them.
If you wish to preach a view via a Question then be prepared to get stick from those who feel offended by the Question or Questions.
I'm really tired of answering this question over and over so here,read this:
One of the questions most frequently asked of any vegan is: “what about plants?” Indeed, I do not know any vegan who has not gotten that question at least once and most of us have heard it many times.
Of course, no one who asks this question really thinks that we cannot distinguish between, say, a chicken and a head of lettuce. That is, if, at your next dinner party, you chop a head of lettuce in front of your guests, you will get a different reaction than if you were to carve a live chicken. If, while walking in your garden, I step on a flower intentionally, you may quite correctly be annoyed with me, but if I intentionally kicked your dog, you would be upset with me in a different way. No one really thinks of these as equivalent acts. Everyone recognizes that there is an important difference between the plant and the dog that make kicking the dog a morally more serious act than stepping on a flower.
The difference between the animal and the plant involves sentience. That is, nonhumans―or at least the ones we routinely exploit―are clearly conscious of sense perceptions. Sentient beings have minds; they have preferences, desires, or wants. This is not to say that animal minds are like human minds. For example, the minds of humans, who use symbolic language to navigate their world, may be very different from the minds of bats, who use echolocation to navigate theirs. It is difficult to know. But it is irrelevant; the human and the bat are both sentient. They are both the sorts of beings who have interests; they both have preferences, desires, or wants. The human and the bat may think differently about those interests, but there can be no serious doubt that both have interests, including an interest in avoiding pain and suffering and an interest in continued existence.
Plants are qualitatively different from humans and sentient nonhumans in that plants are certainly alive but they are not sentient. Plants do not have interests. There is nothing that a plant desires, or wants, or prefers because there is no mind there to engage in these cognitive activities. When we say that a plant “needs” or “wants” water, we are no more making a statement about the mental status of the plant than we are when we say that a car engine “needs” or “wants” oil. It may be in my interest to put oil in my car. But it is not in my car’s interest; my car has no interests.
A plant may respond to sunlight and other stimuli but that does not mean the plant is sentient. If I run an electrical current through a wire attached to a bell, the bell rings. But that does not mean that the bell is sentient. Plants do not have nervous systems, benzodiazepine receptors, or any of the characteristics that we identify with sentience. And this all makes scientific sense. Why would plants evolve the ability to be sentient when they cannot do anything in response to an act that damages them? If you touch a flame to a plant, the plant cannot run away; it stays right where it is and burns. If you touch a flame to a dog, the dog does exactly what you would do―cries in pain and tries to get away from the flame. Sentience is a characteristic that has evolved in certain beings to enable them to survive by escaping from a noxious stimulus. Sentience would serve no purpose for a plant; plants cannot “escape.”
I am not suggesting that we cannot have moral obligations that concern plants, but I am saying that we cannot have moral obligations that we owe to plants. That is, we may have a moral obligation not to cut down a tree, but that is not an obligation that we owe to the tree. The tree is not the sort of entity to which we can have moral obligations. We can have an obligation that we owe to all of the sentient creatures who live in the tree or who depend on it for their survival. We can have moral obligations to other humans and nonhuman animals who inhabit the planet not to destroy trees wantonly. But we cannot have any moral obligations to the tree; we can only have moral obligations to sentient beings and the tree is not sentient and has no interests. There is nothing that the tree prefers, wants, or desires. The tree is not the sort of entity that cares about what we do to it. The tree is an “it.” The squirrel and the birds who live in the tree certainly have an interest in our not chopping down the tree, but the tree does not. It may be wrong morally to chop down a tree wantonly but that is a qualitatively different act from shooting a deer.
Talking about the “rights” of trees, as some do, is to invite equating trees and nonhuman animals and that can only work to the detriment of the animals. Indeed, it is common to hear environmentalists talk about our responsibly managing our natural resources and including nonhuman animals as a “resource” to be managed. That is a problem for those of us who do not see nonhumans as “resources” for our use. Trees and other plants are resources that we can use. We have an obligation to use those resources wisely, but that is an obligation that we owe only to other persons, be they human or nonhuman.
Finally, a variant of the plant question is the question: “what about insects―are they sentient?” No one really knows for certain as far as I am aware. I certainly give insects the benefit of doubt. I do not kill insects in my house and I try never to step on them when I walk. In the case of insects, the line may be difficult to draw but that does not mean that a line cannot be drawn―and drawn clearly―in the majority of cases. We kill and eat at least ten billion land animals every year in the U.S. alone. This does not include all the sea animals who we kill and eat. Maybe there is a question about whether clams or mussels are sentient, but there is no doubt that all the cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, fish, etc. are sentient. The nonhumans from whom we get milk and eggs are undoubtedly sentient.
The fact that we may not know whether insects are sentient does not mean that we have any doubt whatsoever about these other nonhuman animals; we do not. And to say that we do not know whether insects are sentient so we cannot assess the morality of eating the flesh or using the products from nonhumans we know without doubt are sentient, or of bringing those domesticated nonhumans into existence for the purpose of using them as our “resources,” is, of course, absurd.
YOU MEAT EATERS ARE LIKE PAEDOPHILES!
No one ever said vegans don't eat anything that lives, vegans don't eat animals.
Big difference, and what difference does it make to you anyhow, leave us innocent vegans alone.
We don't bother you, so DON'T BOTHER us.
As I said, meat eaters seem to always have a guilty conscience and to hide their misdemeanour's they have to spurt out some dumb statement to try and provoke vegans and thus shift the attention from their own guilt.
Vegans don't eat animal products.We never claimed not to eat things that live!
Plants don't have a nervous system or a brain and so they cannot feel fear or pain in the same way as animals do.
Vegans don't eat anything derived from ANIMALS. Last time I checked, plants are not animals.
vegetables don't have eyes, ears and feelings - (at least it does not have a brain to produce emotions).
Vegetarians and vegans happen to be "compassionate" toward animals that you are not
You wont hear from a true Vegan on here mate. They are all too weak and pasty from malnutrition
mmmmmmm carrots