I am a carnivore, can you convince me to be a herbivore?!
I am a carnivore, can you convince me to be a herbivore?
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1 month ago
Hey M... how the **** does eating a piece of steak contribute to global warming, granted that it's even a viable problem itself?
I eat meat, my body uses the protein and other yummy nutritional stuff and I poop out the waste. Just like eating vegetables. But eating a slab of steak doesn't put corn in your crap.
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1 month ago
Hey M... how the **** does eating a piece of steak contribute to global warming, granted that it's even a viable problem itself?
I eat meat, my body uses the protein and other yummy nutritional stuff and I poop out the waste. Just like eating vegetables. But eating a slab of steak doesn't put corn in your crap.
i can't make you become anything. you have to want to be a herbivore or a carnivore. more power to you!
DON'T DO IT!!! DON'T MOVE TO THE DARK SIDE. MEAT, MEAT, MEAT
Sure I can. Eating meat is unnecessary and it can be argued that all creatures were put on this earth as equals, so why should we be eating other creatures? You can survive on just vegetarian foods, it's not like you'd suffer.
There are numerous reasons to give up meat - from health to compassion and global warming.
But if your mind is already made up, we can try to convince you all we like - with no success.
ADDITIONAL:
An average "burger man" (that is, not the outsize variety) emits the equivalent of 1.5 tonnes more CO2 every year than the standard vegan.
Meat farms are MAJOR contributor to the global warming due to
1.) large areas of rainforest being cut down in order to grow feed for the animals (if humans only ate veggies we would need much less fields! The basic rule of thumb is that it takes 2kg of feed to produce every kilogram of chicken, 4kg for pork, and at least 7kg for beef.)
2.) Animal farms are big "producers" of methane which is several times worse for the environment than C02.
In the US, livestock (including manure) accounts for about 30% of anthropogenic methane emissions, that's the same amount as from all fossil fuels (gas, oil, coal) combined.
3.) Meat needs lots of processing, transporting, refrigerating etc which contributes to global warming
imagine a poor animal being slaughtered no matter how good meat tastes the next time you eat it think of a poor little animal
Man, now you did it. You like to throw baseballs at bees nests too?
Filet Minion with grilled mushrooms....ummmm. Preferably from a cow that smoked
I sure hope you're eating GRASS-FED beef and not grain-fed.
Nope, but maybe I could convince to be a omnivore.
okay spend a day @ the slaughter house when they slaughter the animals with the hammers, electric probes, guns. Not when the butcher is preparing the meat.
Walk a day with a USDA Inspector and see how much they really check of that meat and GIVE the Stamp of Approval. Oooops they missed that one with the big slap of cancer, pussie blood clots, the fecal matter not cleaned up, the urine bladders busted.
I know you're just being fecitious and probably should not even be wasting my time 'cause your mind is already made up, but here's the grassroot link that will shed some light on it.
http://www.goveg.com/feat/chewonthis/ind...
You are an omnivore :]
Do you want to be a vegetarian? ...If not, then what could we ever say to change your mind? ...If so, Do you need convincing? ...If you're just curious... You could do some research about vegetarianism.
Here are some links:
- http://www.vrg.org/
- http://www.vegansociety.com/html/...
- http://www.ivu.org/
- http://www.goveg.com/
- http://www.vegan.org/
Here are some links about reasons people go vegetarian:
- http://www.goveg.com/feat/chewonthis/che...
(PDF... you may need adobe reader if you can't see this link)
- http://www.robinrobertson.com/whygoveg.h...
(If you want to read the first "reasons to go vegetarian" link and the website doesn't work... You can download Adobe Reader for free here: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/re... )
Hope that helped...
***(edit) Sorry I just had to add...
zidane_genome- HAHA
I don't know where to start... First, what are the 2 words? I don't get it....
You spelled "tastey" wrong...
As far as your little " insisor" (spelled that wrong too)comment.... Rabbits have incisors too... Do they use their incisors to "rip apart meat" ?...
Us "tree hugging hippies" need "shot"? what does that even mean?... we need to be shot? That's a really nice thought... you really care/think that much about us??
Ummm yeah we know a cow is not a person... everyone that made it past pre-school knows that...
Ohh and those animals like being on the farms?... yeah I'm sure they love being crammed into a dark, little cage with like 10 of the same kind of animal... covered in S**t and disease.... then boiled alive... Who wouldn't love that? It sounds like a blast to me!
And after I'm done there I'll go back to my nice little studio apartment and enjoy some expensive coffee...
Wait that's not me... I don't live in a nice little studio apartment, oh wait, and I don't drink 4 dollar coffee... I don't hug trees on a regular basis either... that's smells like.... a generalization... hmm... but hey I guess that you know it all... after all, you seem so smart!
And by the way...No one was crying to you, this is a vegetarian and vegan forum... you are the one out of place here... Why don't you go somewhere and kill some things?... enjoy "puking" from your meat... Meat makes you do that I guess...
Keep on eating meat if you dont mind using your body as a graveyard for decaying animal flesh. Meat is full of stuff besides protein. It contains cholesterol, purines, urine, feces, pus, blood, parasites, bacteria, growth hormones, antibiotics, steroids, and whatever diseases the animal had. Just pour on some steak sauce and have at it-but dont delude yourself into thinking these things are not in meat. Meat is injected with antimicrobials containing bleach and peroxide to make it "safe" for human consumption. Why be so selfish to require a living, breathing animal to die just to stuff your face? Mother nature provides many delicious non meat foods that have all of the nutrition and vitamins a human needs to survive. Would you still eat meat if you had to hunt, slaughter, gut, and butcher it yourself? Would you eat a dog, cat, or parrot? Then why a cow, pig, or chicken?
No I can't. Focus on the bigger picture. What does it take to raise that peace of meat for you? How much meat do you consume in a year? If you don't care about the animal cruelty aspect of it, that's your choice. If you don't mind heart disease and cancer that is linked to meat intake along with the hormones you are consuming, why should we convince you of anything? It's a free country, if you don't have similar morals and values like we do, I am not about to "convince" you of anything. Hope you enjoy the repercussions of your lifestyle.
decomposing animal flesh.......... ewwwwwwww
At this moment I too am a carnivore and I am contemplating becoming a vegetarian. The only difference between me and you is you want someone to convince you with a good answer why you should do it ? Me I don't need anyone else to tell me what I should choose and why it would be right or wrong. In all honesty lately food just doesn't taste good anymore especially meat and it is kinda confusing too me I love a good steak but lately they just don't taste right whether it's me or just how the cow was raised I don't know. But as an individual with my own mind and my own opinions I am open to all options and right now vegetarian just sounds like a good choice for me and my family. I am a mother of 4 and a wife my family has had many discussions on this topic and in no way would I force any of my children to not eat meat I just want them to have an open mind and that is my answer to you as well Have an open mind to vegetarian meals try a few and make up your own mind. Like me you are your own person and only someone who is scared or not well educated would ask for someone else to make up there mind for them and don't get me wrong I am not trying to be mean in anyway and in no way am I calling you stupid I don't know you and I have no right to call you anything this is just my opinion but you asked for my opinion so I am giving it. You don't need someone to convince you to give up meat it has to be your own choice and if you have an open mind like I do you would want to go out and try something vegetarian just to give it a chance who knows you might like it and just because you like it doesn't mean you have to give up meat to enjoy it. Everyone has the right to eat what they want and they eat it because the choose too. I honestly don't think anyone could come up with an answer to your question if that were possible don't you think it would have already been answered along time ago and more people would have already given up meat. The answer you are looking for doesn't exist. It is a question that only you can answer for yourself. What you eat and what you do in life is only what you choose. We live and we learn and yes even the best make mistakes the is no such thing as a perfect being. So my advice to you is look inside yourself for the answer and ask yourself do I want t give up meat do I want to be a vegetarian ? Only you can answer yourself everyone else can just give you their opinion but thats all it is.. its an opinion. And alls you can do with someone else's opinion is open your mind to it ? it can't hurt you to have an open mind so give it a try because you want too not because someone told you too. I opened my mind to it and have done lots of research and looked at the pros and cons and have read others opinions but in the end its my choice and I choose to at least give it try and see for myself if its what I want and who knows I may decide to still eat meat I may decide not too but I am open to it and like I said before I will not force my 4 children to give up meat if its not what they want but I expect them to have an open mind and give it a try and if they still decide to enjoy meat so be it maybe they can enjoy a vegetarian meal as a side dish to their steak ? Who knows maybe I can too and you might like it as well? Don't give up meat if it's not what you want but do have an open mind and do try a few vegetarian dishes. I would how ever ask that you first go to a descent restaurant where the chef knows what hes doing and can properly prepare a vegetarian meal before you make a final decision trust me on this not everyone even if they are a vegetarian can properly cook vegetarian.
A veg diet has plenty of benefits,I'll give you the health ones(sorry it's long,but its has good info)...
“It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence. Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.”They may also have a lower risk for some other diseases such as constipation, diverticular disease, gallstones and appendicitis. Women who eat little or no meat are four times less likely to develop breast cancer than women who eat meat reguraly.An English study that compared the diets of 6,115 vegetarians and 5,015 meat eaters for 12 years found that the meatless diet yielded a 40 percent lower risk of cancer and a 20 percent lower risk of dying from any cause. According to William Castelli, M.D., director of the famed Framingham Heart Study, vegetarians outlive meat eaters by 3 to 6 years.After reviewing 4,500 scientific studies and papers on the relationship between cancer and lifestyle, a team of 15 scientists sponsored by two leading cancer research institutions advised that those interested in reducing their risk of many types of cancer consume a diet that is mostly fruits, vegetables, cereals and legumes. They declared that up to 40 percent of cancers are preventable, with diet, physical activity and body weight appearing to have a measurable bearing on risk. In 1996 the American Cancer Society released similar guidelines, including the recommendation that red meat be excluded entirely from the diet.Heart disease does not have to be a death sentence or mean a life of cholesterol-lowering drugs and bypass surgery. By prescribing a vegetarian diet, regular exercise and spiritual nourishment for his heart patients, Dean Ornish, M.D., proved that the progression of this number-one killer can be halted and even reversed.In 1995, 683,000 people died prematurely as a result of atherosclerosis-related diseases. In other words, they died largely as a result of their meat-eating ways. This figure represents 29 percent of all deaths for that year.
Meat contains 14 times the amount of pesticides as plant foods, since pesticides get concentrated as they move up through the food chain, and since they're more easily stored in fatty tissues.The EPA discovered that the breast milk of vegetarian women contained far lower levels of pesticides than that of average Americans. A study reported in the New England Journal of Medicine found that "The highest levels of contamination in the breast milk of the vegetarians was lower than the lowest level of contamination…(in) non-vegetarian women… The mean vegetarian levels were only 1-2% as high as the average levels in the U.S."In the fall of 1996, a study showed that prenatal exposure to PCBs, even relatively small amounts, can impair intellectual development in children. Aside from fish, PCBs can be found in other high-fat foods such as cheese, butter, beef and pork. Women who plan to become pregnant were also advised by the study to avoid foods containing PCBs because the chemicals can remain in their bodies for years.An early '90s EPA report found that 95 percent of human exposure to dioxin, a known carcinogen, comes from consuming red meat, fish and dairy products. Later, chicken and eggs were added to the list. Dioxin builds cumulatively in fatty tissue. The only way to flush it out is through rigorous fasting or via lactation. When a batch of dioxin-contaminated soybean feed entered the food chain in 1997, the FDA set limits on concentration at one part per trillion. If all animal foods were held to this standard, it is likely that many would not be cleared for human consumption.
In the United States, farm animals receive 30 times the antibiotics that people do--not so much to treat infection, but to make the animals grow faster on less feed. Though perfectly legal, the practice is, in effect, promoting the selection of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Some of these bacteria can cause human diseases that physicians are finding difficult to treat. The practice is adding to the general worldwide crisis of drug-resistant disease. Each year, 60,000 Americans die because their medications were ineffective in combating bacterial strains.Every year, on average, each American becomes sick and 9,000 people die from something they ate. That something was probably of animal origin.Except in rare instances, neither the USDA nor the FDA has any regulatory powers on farms where pathogens originate. With the exception of E. coli O157:H7, dangerous bacteria are legally considered "inherent" to raw meat. It's up to consumers to neutralize pathogens with cooking. Two of the "legal" ones--campylobacter and salmonella--account for 80 percent of illnesses and 75 percent of deaths from meat and poultry. One hamburger can contain the meat of 100 different cows from four different countries. One infected animal can contaminate 16 tons of beef.The Centers for Disease Control estimates that campylobacter infects 70 to 90 percent of all chickens. Campylobacter infections give their human victims cramps, bloody diarrhea and fever and lead to death for up to 800 people in the United States each year. For 1,000 to 2,000 people per year, infection will lead to Guillain-Barré syndrome, a disease that requires intensive care for several weeks. A September 1997 sampling of supermarket chicken in Minnesota found 16 percent infected with an antibiotic-resistant strain of campylobacter.A USDA microbiologist declared in a Time magazine story on processed poultry that "the final product is no different than if you stuck it in the toilet and ate it." No wonder: A 1978 USDA rule allows poultry processors to wash contaminated birds rather than discard them or cut away affected parts. "Wash," as interpreted by the poultry industry, means "communal dunk" in what amounts to a virtual fecal soup that ensures salmonella cross-contamination.
Vegetarians have been shown to have more endurance than their meat eating counterparts.At Yale, Professor Irving Fisher designed a series of tests to compare the stamina and strength of meat-eaters against that of vegetarians. He selected men from three groups: meat-eating athletes, vegetarian athletes, and vegetarian sedentary subjects. Fisher reported the results of his study in the Yale Medical Journal. His findings do not seem to lend a great deal of credibility to the popular prejudices that hold meat to be a builder of strength.
"Of the three groups compared, the... flesh-eaters showed far less endurance than the abstainers (vegetarians), even when the latter were leading a sedentary life."
Overall, the average score of the vegetarians was over double the average score of the meat-eaters, even though half of the vegetarians were sedentary people, while all of the meat-eaters tested were athletes.
A comparable study was done by Dr. J. Ioteyko of the Academie de Medicine of Paris. Dr. Ioteyko compared the endurance of vegetarians and meat-eaters from all walks of life in a variety of tests. The vegetarians averaged two to three times more stamina than the meat-eaters. Even more remarkably, they took only one-fifth the time to recover from exhaustion compared to their meat-eating rivals.
Wherever and whenever tests of this nature have been done, the results have been similar. Doctors in Belgium systematically compared the number of times vegetarians and meat-eaters could squeeze a grip-meter. The vegetarians won handily with an average of 69, whilst the meat-eaters averaged only 38. As in all other studies which have measured muscle recovery time, here, too the vegetarians bounced back from fatigue far more rapidly than did the meat-eaters.
You want me to convince you to kill yourself?
2 words for ya man...
PETA
People Eating Tastey Animals!
We were given insisors for a reason... to rip apart meat.
You need to eat the meat! To paraphrase Dennis Leary;
"You will eat the meat... you know why? Eggplant taste's like eggplant, but meat taste's like murder, and murder taste's pretty DAMN good! This country was founded on 2 things, war and meat. You eat enough meat, you wanna kill something."
Not that I condone war, but some of you tree huggin hippies need shot... a cow is a cow, not a person. They can't talk, they can't tell you how they feel... maybe they like being in the farms... and don't tell me how I'd like it... let's see you move into a farm, and see how long you last till you want to move back into your nice little studio apartment drinking your StarShumk's coffee... yea, that's right... go cry to someone who cares....
In conclusion...
EAT THE MEAT... EAT IT ALL!! Eat meat till you puke, then eat more cause your bellys empty now!