Question for vegans from a nonvegan?!
Question for vegans from a nonvegan?
since blood transfusion was discovered by experimenting on dogs,
if u ever need a blood transfusion to live for surgery, would u refuse the transfusion and die instead?
2 months ago
tallpaul=why dont vegans use products from animals?
2 months ago
vegan&pr....and the results of human to human transfusion wouldnt have been discovered without first experimenting on animals.
it is called trial and error.
2 months ago
George Crile (1907)2 perfected the technique of transfusion from artery to vein using dogs, and described its application in 32 patients.
# Hustin (1914)3 showed that addition of citrate could prevent blood from clotting and that citrated blood could be safely transfused into the dog.
# Richard Lewisohn (1915)4 determined the maximum amount of citrate that could be transfused into dogs without toxicity and thus determined the optimum concentration that could be added to blood for the best anticoagulant effect.
# Weil (1915)5 showed that citrated blood could be stored for 2 days and still be effective when transfused into guinea-pigs and dogs which had lost blood.
http://www.rds-online.org.uk/pages/page....
Answers:
2 months ago
tallpaul=why dont vegans use products from animals?
2 months ago
vegan&pr....and the results of human to human transfusion wouldnt have been discovered without first experimenting on animals.
it is called trial and error.
2 months ago
George Crile (1907)2 perfected the technique of transfusion from artery to vein using dogs, and described its application in 32 patients.
# Hustin (1914)3 showed that addition of citrate could prevent blood from clotting and that citrated blood could be safely transfused into the dog.
# Richard Lewisohn (1915)4 determined the maximum amount of citrate that could be transfused into dogs without toxicity and thus determined the optimum concentration that could be added to blood for the best anticoagulant effect.
# Weil (1915)5 showed that citrated blood could be stored for 2 days and still be effective when transfused into guinea-pigs and dogs which had lost blood.
http://www.rds-online.org.uk/pages/page....
Blood transfusions were delayed 200 years by animal studies, corneal transplants were delayed 90 years.
According to the Report of the Royal Commission on Vivisection (1912): The first human blood-transfusion was made by Andre Libavius in 1594 when, for a large reward, the blood of a young man was passed into the veins of an older man. Modern technique depends upon a careful matching of blood-types, and no animal experiments have, or could have helped in this essential particular."
"The French physician, Jean Denis, transfused lambs' blood into numerous patients who all died. Not recognizing the basic differences between animals and humans, Denis did not realize why his technique failed. Yet, because of the failure of this animal experiment, no further attempts were made for more than a century."
The identification of the various blood groups by Karl Landsteiner, an Australian emigrant who was awarded a Nobel Prize for his achievement, which permitted safe blood transfusions, was a result of direct observation of humans.
Source(s):
http://vivisection-absurd.org.uk/menun.h...
Aren't you a troll.
Vegans don't use any products from animals - meat, milk, leather, gelatin, etc.
That has nothing to do with how medical procedures were discovered. If that were the case, vegans would soon be extinct, as they would refuse to take any medication for anything.
Get back under your bridge.
vegan&proud said it best. You can give my potential points to him. Way to go buddie! You hit one out of the ball park.
The point of being vegan is to help put a dent in animal suffering the best way we know how. That being said living in this society there is no way to be 100 % pure vegan. We couldn't drive a car, live in a house, etc etc etc..
To add to Katie G.'s list, ...be on yahoo answers, computers have some animal products in them.
i'd like to know the answer to this one myself!
vegan and proud really answered this ... so I only want to add a few more facts .. I will not even go into the cures of major diseases where cures were found without animal experimentataion or the fact the first thousand or so polio vacine recipients contracted the disease due the wrong dosage because of animal experimentation .. or digitalis ( which saves countless thousands of humans lives was kept off the market for 30 years due to animal experimentation .. but this article is a quote and worth the read .. " Animals are also used in medical research, in an attempt to find the causes of, and treatments for, human disease. But animal experiments are unreliable and can be dangerously misleading because animals’ bodies are different from ours, and they don’t get the same diseases as we do.
Thousands of chimpanzees have been used in useless experiments to find a cure for AIDS, but it is now known that, whilst it kills humans, AIDS won't kill chimpanzees. The link between smoking and lung cancer was first observed in people but because no animals developed cancer when forced to inhale tobacco smoke, vital health warnings were delayed by many years. No one knows how many people died as a result of the misleading information provided by animal experiments.
Drugs affect animals differently from us. Drugs such as aspirin and paracetamol, commonly used to treat people, are highly poisonous to cats. Although Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin in 1928, it was not until ten years later that it was tested, first in animals, and then subsequently in humans. Early researchers chose to test penicillin on mice and the encouraging results led to its use in humans. Had they chosen to test it on hamsters or guinea pigs, it is likely that penicillin would have been discarded, as it is lethal to both species.
On the other hand, each year drugs that were passed safe in animal tests are withdrawn after causing serious side-effects, and even deaths, when given to people. Recent examples include Vioxx - the animal-tested arthritis drug - which was reported to have caused up to 140,000 heart attacks and strokes before being withdrawn. And the TGN1412 (‘elephant man’ drug) disaster that left six men with organ failure after tests on monkeys failed to predict these effects.
The many differences - both obvious and very subtle - between humans and other species make animal experiments a waste of time, effort, money and lives - both human and animal."