Vegans please explain ( read my detaials fully before answering)?!
Vegans please explain ( read my detaials fully before answering)?
i have researched many reasons why i can understand for health reasons or some may just simply not like meat. i am confused on the animal rights issue though. I have seen and watche the peta vid on mass producing farms it makes me sick.
for example i live in germany and here we still have the old farming methods and the animals are taken well care of and killed properly.
however i am an american born and raised i am fully aware that our meat is mass produced but there are famers markets and what not to purchace meat its a lil moore expensive but u know the animal was well taken care of before and its healther meat.
2 months ago
the question is i know that alot of vegans are vegitarians because of the mass procucing meat markets tourching the animals but i dont see it as a legitmate excuese to be vegan then so if thoes out there could buy humanly killed meat would you still be vegitarian
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2 months ago
the question is i know that alot of vegans are vegitarians because of the mass procucing meat markets tourching the animals but i dont see it as a legitmate excuese to be vegan then so if thoes out there could buy humanly killed meat would you still be vegitarian
No matter how well the animal was taken care of or not, he or she is still killed in the end. Think about it this way, what if I was to confine you for a year? You are well treated, you have food, water and a few things to do. Then one day I come in scoop you up, bring you outside and throw you into a truck with a bunch of other people. You are scared now, somehow the past year of being pampered still doesn't make up for even this little bit of torment. The truck stops and you are roughly tossed onto the ground were you are told to form a line and follow the others in front of you. As you walk into this building single file people are waiting their turn to enter a door you can see up ahead. When it's your turn you walk in and are quickly strung up by your legs upside down. To add to the immense terror you already feel at this point, a man with blood stained clothes turns around and begins approaching you with a knife in his right hand. With an emotionless expression on his face he proceeds to sever your windpipe and the arteries of your neck despite your screams of protest. It’s like he didn’t even hear you. As your drown in your own blood, gasping for breath, I think we can both agree that right now it makes no difference how you were treated before you were cut open. You will still be dead in a moment, and you will die terrified and tortured.
I don't think animals should be killed for human needs, anymore than I think people should be killed for human needs. Thats why I'm Vegan.
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...and the question is.....
Even if the animal was well taken care of it was still killed for meat,which is not necessary.I wouldn't want an animal killed just so I can have a hamburger.I can live easily without meat.I just don't see meat as a necessity,and I don't agree with killing an animal for a hamburger,even if it was well treated.
Even humanely killing is killing and still cruel at the end of the day. If tribes of people that ate other humans were allowed to humanely euthanise their 'Long Pig' would it be less gruesome?
As well as liking animals, I hate the taste of meat also .
Even if an animal had the most pampered life as a beloved friend I still wouldn't want to eat it. That is why we are vegetarians and vegans!
Absolutely NOT!!! I was actually raised on a farm. My Dad treated his cattle like pets but he still killed and ate them!! Even at the age of 11 I thought that it was so horrible that a living, breathing, feeling animal would be killed just to suit someone's taste. Because humans do not need meat to live!!!! would you be able to kill the animal yourself after raising it for a couple of years? or would you kill and eat your dog/cat/whatever pet you own? If so then hey eat away.
it doesn't matter how the animal is killed, but the main point is that it is killed. would u, any1 in your family, or any1 u know would like to be killed and taken away from ur family even if u were 2 be killed in a gentle way....EXACTLY! cuz when u die, u die it wont matter how u die. and even if the animal doesn't care that ur killing it, i bet their mother or family would definately care.
I think you meant to target all vegetarians and not just vegans.
There's a significant difference between animal welfare and animal rights.
Animal welfare- it's ok to slaughter animals and vivisect them as long as we do it "humanely".
Animal rights- we don't have any rights over animals.
Here is how a cow is killed properly:
It dies of old age.
So, because *you* don't see it as a "legitimate excuse", it's not a valid one?
The point is that an animal's life is taken for the pleasure of a human. Meat is not necessary - is it right to expect an animal to give up it's life so that a human can have 15 minutes of pleasure?
Even family farms have horrible cruelty. I don't exactly think it's humane to slit a cow's throat and wait for it to die. I don't exactly think it's humane for each cow in line to watch this. You get the idea.
Reformists care about how an animal is killed.
Animal rights actvists and advocates do not
want anything to be killed.
yes i would still be a vegan. i know for a fact that i dont need an animal to die for me to live a healthy life. i am never hungry and i feel very good about myself every morning when i wake up knowing that how i live my life i am helping animals. or at least not promoting their deaths. what a sad life it must be, being born to die.
As a dedicated carnivore I'd like to provide an alternate view.
I do not want my food animals to be deliberately mistreated, but let's face it they are food. They are born and raised for the purpose of eating them. You could make a case that these animals would never have been alive at all if not for someone wanting to eat them. But as long as the animal's life is free from pain, fine by me.
When people start comparing family pets to livestock I just roll my eyes. It's not a comparable situation. Sure, if you the average person were asked to raise a pig in their home and then slaughter it themselves they probably wouldn't. But if you asked that person to raise 2000 hogs and deliver them to a slaughter house when they're mature and get a big cheque for it? Well, that changes things.
I have no objections to somebody choosing to be a vegetarian, that's their decision. However, understand that the ability to have a balanced, meat free diet is a fairly recent thing. Some parts of the world may have been aware of it sooner, but it wasn't something that was known.
And while we're on the subject of herbivore vs. carnivore, many vegetarians scoff at the notion that our teeth are "designed" to eat meat. They say "we don't have teeth like a dog or cat". Well, we have a whole array of different teeth, designed to eat many kinds of material, including meat. Not exclusively meat, certainly.
Essentially, many Vegans are fanatics. They will spew rhetoric at you till they go blue in the face. I once hear a Vegan describe how much more natural and healthy the lifestyle was. Then he went on to describe the battery of supplements he had to take to replace the food value from those animal products. natural, but with supplements? Doesn't add up to me.
I'm starting to rant here, sorry. You are entitled to be a vegetarian, but I'm just as entitled to eat meat.
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Love the name "Hunters R Cowards", great one. But, from the other side: "Vegetarian": an old indian word, translates to "bad hunter".
Honestly what vegetarian do you know that eats or buys meat??? ONE if your lucky .. I do not buy meat and don't know any vegetarians that do..........I for one Will not tell anyone they should not eat meat we all do have freewill i don't think you should eat meat if you are not willing to kill it for yourself..... try deboning (??SPELLING??) raw chicken if you cant handle don't eat it ............OK so my point is if you are a vegetarian you should not buy meat because they makes you hypocritical ....yes even if you don't eat it (i.e. if a christian goes and buys drugs but gives it too a friend makes him just as guilty as the guy doing the drug) like i said if you cant handle it don't eat it ......eating meat is a choice. DONT FORGET YOUR GREENS:)
I'd absolutely still be vegan. No matter how nicely you might treat an animal you plan to slaughter it doesn't take away the pain of it's death.
And I don't believe there is a way they can be "properly killed"
Taking the life of another living, breathing, feeling creature, is in no way "proper"
Animals have they ability to feel love, pain and fear just like we do. And whether you choose to see it it or not, just like our domestic pets. Why do you think they struggle till their last breath? They have the desire to live and we should not have the right to deny them that just because of our taste buds.
We have no nutritional requirements for the flesh of these animals either - we can get plenty of protein with a plant based diet. No one has to die for us to have a healthy and satisfying life and it should be that simple. If no one has to die but we choose to kill them anyway it isn't about survival or food chains or any of that crap it is about selfish cruelty.
And just because you pay someone a little extra to be nice to a cow before they kill it doesn't make you any better than someone who pays the assassin on the cheap.
if you feel badly about something like this than don't support it. You could raise your own animals and do with them as you please.
i feel bad eating things that lives on the same earth as me, that thinks, feels and deserves better then made into a million things.
no matter what cost, or the living condition, nothing.
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