Should vegans be banned from buying Cats and Dogs?!
Should vegans be banned from buying Cats and Dogs?
I don't understand Vegans. I work at a pet store and for the 3rd time, a vegan asks me if there is a meat alternative cat or dog food. Today , I sold a kitten and I immediatly recommended her on what types of food she should feed the cat. She refused to buy any meat products. I asked my manager if I could take then kitten back, my manager told me just to let it go.
How could vegans support animals, and then torture cats and dogs by feeding them vegetarian foods?
2 months ago
Randall:
Most dry cat/dog foods have vegetable/meat blends. But I'm complaining about vegans who want absolutely NO meat. The ingrediants in meat are requiered for the animal's survival.
Answers:
2 months ago
Randall:
Most dry cat/dog foods have vegetable/meat blends. But I'm complaining about vegans who want absolutely NO meat. The ingrediants in meat are requiered for the animal's survival.
I am a vegan and my dog eats meat. Dogs are carnivores. Any smart vegan knows that. Some vegans are simply ignorant, just like all other genres of food eaters.
no they should not be banned. everyone is different and has different views.
I think that is cruel. Animals need a proper diet. Who are humans to try to change nature anyways?
yeah they should... vegans suck man...
i'm a vegetarian, and i think vegans are kind of nuts. i mean, i don't like meat products but i don't mind the fact that other people do. animals can get their nutrition from things besides meat, but i still think it's fine for them to eat regular cat or dog food. it's not like cat food is dripping with blood and freshly made meat- especially the dry kinds. i don't think it's necessarily CRUEL for vegans to limit their pets' diets...just not important and a little extreme..
The question the host has submitted, is a non-issue.
We own a 3-time award-winning Welsh Pembroke Corgi who has spent his entire life on a grain-corn-fish blend. He exhibits no allergies, has excellent teeth and coat, and is now 17 years old. He shows no signs of arthritis, or other ailments typical of the breed.
Dogs are omnivores, cats are carnivores.
It is quite acceptable to feed a dog vegetarian food, and if you cover all the nutritional needs it will be healthier than those on regular dog food. Cats are tougher, as there are certain vitamins they can only get from flesh.
I am not vegan, but vegetarian. I've had very healthy vegetarian dogs--- altho I do accept that animals are not people (duh) and therefore can eat meat. My dog eats tofu, brown rice, vegetables, avocados, etc. plus sometimes dry vegetarian dog food (Science Diet)
I have a cat who I feed dry non-veg cat food, and who "supplements" his diet with rodents, lizards, and the occasional bird.
My dog, however, when presented with a meaty raw beef bone by my friend, appeared horrified and backed away from it. Eventually he returned, carried it away and buried it, and it was never dug up nor seen again.
If you think it is torturing them, you are simply ignorant of the facts.
Can cats and dogs survive without meat--YES. Clearly dogs can, and most cats tend to seek out their own protein sources- but with healthy cat food and supplements I am sure they would be fine
You people do not know what you are talking about! Those that are vegan are the only smart ones. You make your dog or cat vegan because this is the only way to protect your pet from the chemicals in the meat. Do some research before you post nonsense like this. And if you don't care and would still feed your dog or cat meat enjoy your cancer because 40% of you will get it some time in your life. Btw vegans on average live 14 years longer then your average person. Think about that before you flame anyone who wants to make their pet vegan.
Give me a break, torture???
I suppose it's better to feed them prion infected downer meat?
Did you notice that NONE of the vegan pet foods had to be recalled?
Read the links and learn!
http://www.madcowboy.com/02_veganpets.ht...
http://animalawareness.org/pages/what_pe...
http://www.veggiepets.com/acatalog/veget...
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/pe...
http://www.vegancats.com/
http://www.petfoodshop.com/index.cfm?id=...
I agree with you, but not all vegans are like this. I have a vegan friend and she doesn't really care what her dog eats. (Pedigree, yeah it's crap but it DOES have SOME meat in it.)
Just because they think it's mean to eat animals doesn't mean their dogs do, dogs thrive on vegetables and grains and NEED meat in their diet.
Ah well, atleast the dogs are getting fed.
No, no vegan products were recalled, but are any vegan products made by menu foods? no.
Were Innova, Canidae, California Natural or Solid gold recalled? Nope
anyway, I don't think that ALL vegans should be banned, but that vegan dog FOOD should be banned.. what's the point of it anyway? There's no such thing as a "meat sensitive" dog
Vegetarian here: I have been a vegetarian for over 20 years and a cat owner for just about the same time. Half my cats HATE meat-if I were to put meat in front of them they back away. The other half are like furry vampires they crave meat and their food is meat based. I have not tried to "convert" my cats to my way of life.
I dont think cats can adapt very well to a complete vegetarian diet. They do have nutritional needs cultivated over thousands of years that vegetables cant match. Perhaps in another one thousand years they will have evolved enough to be vegetarians.
No not at all. You need to have respect for anyone who is trying to do right by saving an animal but not killing animal.
I sorta agree on both sides of this argument. On one hand feeding your animal a non meat diet, as long as it provides all the necessary vitamins, won't hurt the animal.
On the other hand...any fool knows that cats and dogs are carnivores and are designed to be meat eaters. If they won't eat veggie food then it is, indeed, torture.
The best advice for any pet owner or prospective pet owner, is to consult a veterinarian on the dietary needs of the pet. More importantly, they should ask about the effects of a vegetarian diet on the animal.
Banned? No. That's silly. There are people out there that literally torture, abuse, and kill their pets. Personally, I'd feed my carnivore pet on a raw meat diet, fresh kill if possible (I'm vegan). Most pet food is just very nasty stuff... if it's completely unsuitable for human consumption, guess what's in it; nothing good. My family dog was eating that crap and got all sorts of lumps and was very sickly. Our previous dog, she didn't fair very well either. I think it's a bit silly to not feed pets fresh kill, such as dead mice to a snake, or dead fish to the wale and dolphins at the zoo, or to you dog or cat at home, but that was up to my parents and all they wanted was the cheapest stuff. Anything dead, is just not very good for them; or me. I suppose fresh frozen is better than highly cooked food. Personally, I think most pets have a horrible life, sitting at home all day waiting for their owners to come home, then if they are lucky, they get to go outside for a pee and a poo, then back in they go, or perhaps a little walk before or after dinner. Wow, what a life.
Not banned, but educated. Perhaps you could point out that even manufacturers of vegan pet foods don't recommend a 100% vegan diet for cats-it can cause kidney failure. Cats require an amino acid called Taurine-it can be lab synthesized but they don't seem to do as well without any meat at all.
My own comment to Randall-you did realize that vegans consider fish to be meat, right? You say part of your pets diet is fish-that's not vegan.
1.I don't see why a vegan would get a kitten from a pet store rather than a pound?
2.They put downer cows in pet foods,pretty much the worst type of meat that you can buy.Dogs and cats can get mad cow disease.
3.A vegan dog in australia lived to be 27 years old
4.A lion survived and thrived on a vegegtaran diet(http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation...
Sorry, but meat is not required for cats' and dogs' survival. Until recently, cats could not survive without meat because it is a source of taurine. However, taurine has now been successfully synthesised, and there are vegetarian dry foods for both cats and dogs. Both give a full, nutritional diet for the animals and there are no ill effects. It most certainly is not torture to feed them a vegetarian diet. I have had a rescue cat for a couple of months and she is very happy with her veggie food. Initially, and reluctantly, I did buy some cans of the most natural food I could find (tuna, rice and vegetable oil), but given the choice between the two, she goes for the veggie stuff every time.
The only odd thing about your question is that originally, the vegan doctrine believed that animals should not be domesticated, as vegans did not believe that any animal should be "owned" by a human, as this did not mean that animals and humans were truely equal. I am aware that over the years this has been watered down somewhat, and vegans will now take in rescue animals - this is why I'm surprised that a vegan would buy a kitten from a pet shop as it contributes to the animal breeding trade.
Most responsible non-meat eating pet owners feed their animals meat products and honestly, I think you are making this little story up anyway.
Dogs do just fine on a Vegan diet, Cats can, however it's abit harder.
I'm not so concerned about the diet as why a "Vegan" is buying an animal as a opposed to rescuing one.
Considering your past questions, I call BS.
Only the wacked out, fanatical ones should be banned from owning pets. :) Dogs can live without meat--cats can NOT. I'm sure you can buy supplements or something to try to keep the cat relatively healthy, but how can you force an animal that was made a carnivore (by God himself, no doubt!) to adapt to your eating habits? Animals rely on us to ensure their health, take care of them, and give them a good home. Feeding a cat a vegan diet seems like a form of abuse to me. What happens when the owner finds the cat eating a mouse or bird that it's killed? Force feed it loads of water, roughage (greens) and then give it an enema to rid it's body of the impurities of meat? (rolling eyes)
To be honest, most of the vegetarian pet foods on the market are far better in overall quality than what MOST people feed their pets.
That said, even as a vegetarian, I feed my animals meat-based diets. BUT I would never in a million years feed them the nasty commercial foods that most people feed their pets. Purina, Science Diet, Iams, Ol' Roy, whatever... it's all the same crap (as proven by the current recall). I feed my dogs and cats premium foods made by small companies which use only human grade ingredients made in the US. I'd feed my animals a quality vegetarian food made by one of those companies long before I'd feed them anything you can buy at Walmart or the grocery store.
I think pet stores torture animals far more than feeding them a vegan diet ever would.