Can you settle a debate between Whole Milk & Soy Milk for 12 month old?!
Can you settle a debate between Whole Milk & Soy Milk for 12 month old?
My husband & I are debating if we should do Whole Milk
They both have positves and negatives. So what is your sight?
If you don't have anything nice to say keep it to your self please.
Answers:
It's way past my bedtime and I shouldn't be getting into the flame-fest this seems to be turning into but...
To all the folks yammering about hormones in soy milk and/or claiming to buy hormone free cow milk...
ALL mammalian milk has REAL estrogen in it!!!!!!! YES, even human milk has estrogen. Get the picture yet??? All babies have always consumed milk with estrogen in it!
Soy milk has NO estrogen!!! It does have compounds called phyto-estrogen's and phyto-sterol's but the only research claiming health problems from them was funded by the dairy industry.
If you want to see something interesting visit a hospital 'pre-me' ward and ask to see the ingredient list for the formula given to those babies
To directly answer the question, human breast milk is best. At one year of age consumption of soy milk is unlikely to cause soy allergies (that's why the carton warning) or other health problems. Modern cow milk just has too many bad effects on our planet and bodies. Cattle industry water pollution (now #1 cause in US), methane, e.coli ,salmonella (the veggies get theirs from cattle) etc.
I'll most likely expound on the subject later when I'm awake
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Maybe I'll add some links when it isn't 1am-maybe not, I'm at home with my usual 19k connect.
well if the child is not allergic to cow's milk, I would go cow's milk. People have been drinking it for hundreds of years.
Well I had 5 children and they all grew up on Whole milk, 5 healthy ones here. Never heard of soy back then. Personally I think we are getting away from the real nutritious foods that we used to have.
My pediatrician recommended whole milk for both of my kids. I believe it is more nutritious (her words)
I also get milk with out the growth hormones
12 month old needs anykind of milk he can have.but soy milk although a lot more expensive is highly recomended than whole milk its because of colesterol to calorie ratio,whole milk has a lot of calories and colesterol than soy
I'm not a medical expert but I am a mother. Doctors do recommend that you give children whole milk once they reach the age of a year old.Even fat free milk isn't good enough for them. But, if for some reason your child cannot drink or digest the whole milk then soy milk may be the best thing. This may sound awful but I would just wait and see how the child accepts or dislikes the milk and if there are any complications, consult a pediatrician.
Soy milk has estrogen in it, which if the child is a boy, may conteract some of the hormone development. I was told that i should not drink it on a regular basis.
i would go with the soy now rather than later, I tried giving it to my daughter when she was 4 and she said it was horrible, i think if she would have had it younger she would have liked it. its healthier. think about it, what other mammal drinks another mammals milk? yeah i know cats drink cow milk if you give it to them but you arent suppose to (my cat will eat anything you give her- she really likes pepperoni!) so yeah go with soy
Read this and then decide:
http://www.milksucks.com/sickkids.asp...
Rice Milk and Soy Milk should never be confused with or used as a replacement for whole cow milk (or for breast feeding or as a replacement for infant formula).
Whole cow milk contains a variety of nutrients that are among those crucial to building good health in babies and toddlers. Many of these nutrients are not naturally occurring in "alternative beverages" and while those beverages may be fortified, naturally occurring nutrients are best. Soy milk does not contain a good level natural calcium nor does it contain the level of fat and protein that whole cow milk does. Soy milk may also hinder the absorption of calcium even though it may be calcium fortified. Whole cow milk contains natural calcium that is more easily absorbed than from other sources. It contains the "good" fats that are crucial to infant and toddler development; a reason why pediatricians recommend whole milk for a minimum of the first 2-3 years of age. Whole cow milk is also a great source of protein, another nutrient that is crucial in healthy development. Vitamin A and B12, along with some other B Vitamins, are also found in whole milk and these Vitamins are essential in proper growth.
It is most important to know the difference between a soy formula and soy milk; soy formula is formulated with the nutrients an infant requires whereas soy milk is not. You should never switch your infant from a soy based formula to plain soy milk!
Rice Milk in particular is low in fat which is not recommended for those under 2 years of age and it is also very very low in protein. Soy milk also contains a lower level of fats. There has been cases in Califoria and Arkansas that made the FDA issue a warning in 1990 against using soy milk as a formula substitute.
i think i would do cows milk because it has calcium,
which a baby does really need
Oh, thank you so much for bringing this up! I would in fact be in expert on this because certain people and a particular person in my family is one of the leading experts of this in the world. Whole Milk, though does countain more "fat" is in fact very good for you and what promotes strong bones and teeth. When you become older and your bones no longer grow if they are too weak, they will crack and break. You can aquire strong bones from calcium which is very evident in natural whole milk-not soy milk. Soy milk is made up from the soybean which contrary to popular belief, is not the healthy miracle food everyone think is so good. It in fact contains alot of estrogene, which is a female hormone and helps the growth and cause of puberty. When girls go through puberty, this is because of the pituitary gland releasing estrogene into their bodies. In is important to have atleast some estrogene, just like sugar and salt in our diets, but like sugar and salt which can cause high blood pressure and/or diabetes, just think of the damage estrogene-a FEMALE hormone can cause to girls-AND boys if to much is consumed. They can become over-developed or underdeveloped depending on how the body takes it in, but for men, if huge amounts are consumed, it can make the the size of the male privates smaller, the voice higher, and can give off more female like characteristics to their bodies. I'm not saying men will begin menunstrating, because they won't, but remember...this is a FEMALE HORMONE.
Whole milk has no REAL substitute. As much as you can take "calcium pills" or whatever if you claim to be "lactose intolerant", if you aren't, why waste the money on a substitute for calcium and down soybean vegetable milk, (which by the way isn't really milk so you'd be scared at how it get's that "white milk" look to it when it clearly isn't really milk) when you can have the real thing.
Sure, whole milk can cost more as it is more healthy and sufficient then its "substitutes", same as 1% and 2% milk, they just have more water in it then whole milk, therefore less calcium and fat (but sometimes for dieting reasons, you want less fat so instead you would drink 2%, 1%, partly skimmed, or skimmed milk, which is basically just skimmed of calcium, Vitamin D, and other nutriants found in "normal" whole milk)
So, sure, it might be a bit more expensive, and if you are someone on a very very tight budget, you might not be able to spend an extra few dollars on whole milk. But think of it in the long run. If you have health-related problems when you're older because of such deprivations in vitamins and minerals that were plentifully evident in whole milk, you wished you would of made a wiser investment. Why not live life knowing there's one more health-related problem you can count on not having an issue with in a world full of cancers and heart diseases? I'm not saying that drinking whole milk will cure you from bone cancer because that can be heriditary and also from other things too, but it's sort of like saying if you stop smoking, you won't get lung cancer. I know someone in my family who had lung cancer, and thank G-d she survived, but she never smoked. Smoking risks lung cancer. When you smoke, you have a lesser chance of getting lung cancer. When you drink whole milk, your strong bones have a lesser chance of damage when older which is one of the worst kinds of damage to happen to somebody as it is terribly painful and not a 100% curable thing once you have it, depending on what kind of bone disease it is. Whole milk also promotes vision, brain function, ability and self awareness, walking, running and performing in sports and physical activities (bones), chewing and biting (teeth and gums) a healthy heart rate, strong bone marrow (what's inside your bones-once the marrow is gone, that's the end of your marrow and possibly whole leg, unless you want a surgically implanted artificial one) working mind, as well as keeping a steady pace and helping to stabalise proper eating habits and ruitines such as sleeping, waking, remembering, and keeping proper self esteem, and blood temperature which can keep you from having a heart attak (cardiac arrests and such) awareness, also meaning "spacing out", "weirding out" and forgetting things and most importantly, keeping healthy eating habit s and life style and living longer. Studies show the positive effects of drinking whole milk, which is plentiful in the very fundimental ingreidients-Calcium and Vitamin D as well as MANY other Vitamins and minerals that keep the body working can lengthen your life.
Soy milk does not do all this. Yes, some people say there are some positive things, but the calcium factor is VERY important in maintaining a healthy lifestyle. If you believe that vegitable milk will save you from heart disease and cancers which are evident of a history in your family, and you are especially prone to, good for you. Just remember what could have been a better alternative.
So, I would incourage making an investment in your whole milk drinking. I promise, over the course of your life, it will make an impact and an important factor in how healthy you choose to be, and most importantly, how long you choose to live. I promise you, in the long run it'll be worth it.
Of course, the choice is yours and you can choose to consume whatever you want. By doing so, you may also possibly control the outcome of your life by your eating and health lifestyle habits. I do hope that you make the right decisions. But if you are smart, and I do believe you are, I believe you have already made the right one.
Thanks and good luck to you and your husband. Thank you for taking the time to read this and realizing that you can make a difference in the outcome of your life!! -Cheers!
I would go with soy formula, because it will have the fat that the baby needs while giving all the necessary nutrients. The soy milk won't have enough fat, but the human body rejects cow's milk. Most people don't realize that milk from a cow is meant for the cow's baby, and so our bodies treat it as an intruder. That's why so many people are lactose intolerant.
IF THE CHILD ISN'T LACTOSE INTOLLERANTE. PEDITRICIANS DO RECOMEND THAT AFTER ONE YEAR YOU SHOULD REALLY GIVE A CHILD WHOLE MILK. BECAUSE OF THE FAT THAT IS IN IT. THEY DO NEED THIS TO GROW. ALSO WHOLE MILK HAS IRON THAT YOUR BABY NEEDS SO HE/SHE DOSEN'T BECOME ANEMIAC. OR MAYBE JUST ASK YOUR DOCTOR.
The following article has a lot of interesting comments on soy milk and soy products:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/ploy.htm...
I personally find the writing a little less than impartial, however it is difficult to argue withe the science and biology that the author points out. Therefore, I recommend this article.
As for milk, in Ayurvedic theory, it is listed in the ancient texts as one of the top 10 foods recommended for human consumption on a daily basis. Yet, many people have difficulty digesting it because it is not served in the traditional manner. For instance, general food combining principles frown on drinking cold milk or having milk with other food. I grew up with a glass of milk--cold from the fridge--next to the spaghetti or whatever Mom served. So, these principles are quite a departure from common American diets. To learn more about drinking milk properly, see this article:
http://www.sacredwindow.com/articles-mil...
Be advised that this article is written for post-partum women. However, the principles stand true.
CHeck the side of any carton of soy milk and you'll find a warning against using it for infants.
That doesn't mean using cow's milk, though. if you've been nursing , keep doing so if at all possible. It's still the best thing available.
But as 12 months, your child should be eating at least soft foods, if not semi-solids as well. At this point, milk is not as necessary as it was with a younger child.
Soy milk does not have estrogen in it. It does have estrogen-like substances in it, but doesn't have negative effects on males. If it did, there are a few generations of men who would have suffered adverse effects of Enfalac and Similac, which are soy beverages for infants.
Contact your local LaLeche League office and ask for recommendations.
If you must use Cow's milk please do organic. I do Goat's milk. Or consider Nuts milks, Grain milks
Do not use Soy milk, there is too many health problems now being connected to over use of Soy.
Your little one needs the best food(drink) you can give him/her. "Food is Medicine" It is what makes us health or ill.
This site is on the non-organic milk production
http://www.notmilk.com/
Now, why do you think human's naturally produce milk for youngsters? They produce it because it is so nutritious and their youngsters can live off it for the first period of their life. Why would they purposely make a food that was unhealthy?
Yes, I know cow's milk is different, but it isn't very. It has all the same nutrients, vitamins and minerals as human's, just different proportions, and thus it isn't inherently any unhealthier than human's. The anti-milk brigade really contradict themselves on this when claiming cow's milk is bad because it is so similar to human's, and if they tried to denounce breast milk they really wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Soy milk is not designed for babies to drink by nature, whereas whole milk is (albeit calves). It is also useful throughout childhood because, while it isn't needed per se beyond infancy, people still need the nutrients it contains throughout life, and it is an excellent source.
Many people become lactose intolerant, yes, but human evolution over the last few thousand years is showing we are adapting to drinking milk into adulthood, whereas it is normally only for infants. This can be shown in that the majority of white people can consume milk into adulthood, although less in some other races (this is one of those things which differs with race), coinciding with that Europe (and now the countries they have immigrated to) is the area which traditionally consumes the most dairy.
Most people aren't lactose intolerant these days.
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/......
Soy doesn't prevent cancer, it can cause it.
"Soy contains several naturally occurring compounds that are toxic to humans and animals. The soy industry frequently refers to these toxins as anti-nutrients, which implies that they somehow act to prevent the body getting the complete nutrition it needs from a food. The soy toxins (such as phytic acid) can certainly act in this manner, but they also have the ability to target specific organs, cells and enzyme pathways and their effects can be devastating.
The soy toxins that scientists have the most concerns about are protease inhibitors, phytic acid, soy lectins (or haemagglutins), nitrosamines, manganese concentrations and the mysterious soyatoxin. Nitrosamines are not naturally occurring in soybeans but form during the processing of products such as isolated soy protein (ISP).
High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.
Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic orders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth.
Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.
Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.
Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body’s requirement for B12.
Soy foods increase the body’s requirement for vitamin D.
Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.
Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.
Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and added to many soy foods.
Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys.
Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula.
Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least five birth control pills per day.
Male infants undergo a “testosterone surge” during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculine physical traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior.
Pediatricians are noticing greater numbers of boys whose physical maturation is delayed, or does not occur at all, including lack of development of the sexual organs. Learning disabilities, especially in male children, have reached epidemic proportions.
Soy infant feeding―which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone―cannot be ignored as a possible cause for these tragic developments. In animals, soy feeding indicates that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters.
Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-American girls show signs of puberty such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogens such as PCBs and DDE."
On the other hand, to quote wikipedia:
"Milk is one of the most nutritionally complete foods available.
Milk began containing differing amounts of fat during the 1950s. A serving (1 cup or 250 ml) of 2%-fat milk contains 285 mg of calcium, which represents 22% to 29% of the daily recommended intake (DRI) of calcium for an adult. Depending on the age, 8 grams of protein, and a number of other nutrients (either naturally or through fortification):
Vitamins D and K are essential for bone health.
Iodine is a mineral essential for thyroid function.
Vitamin B12 and riboflavin are necessary for cardiovascular health and energy production.
Biotin and pantothenic acid are B vitamins important for energy production.
Vitamin A is critical for immune function.
Potassium and magnesium are for cardiovascular health.
Selenium is a cancer-preventive trace mineral.
Thiamine is a B-vitamin important for cognitive function, especially memory
Conjugated linoleic acid is a beneficial fatty acid that inhibits several types of cancer in mice, it has been shown to kill human skin cancer, colorectal cancer and breast cancer cells in vitro studies, and may help lower cholesterol and prevent atherosclerosis; only available in milk from grass-fed cows.
Studies show possible links between low-fat milk consumption and reduced risk of arterial hypertension, coronary heart disease, and obesity. Overweight individuals who drink milk may benefit from decreased risk of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes."
All the nutrients found in both can be found in other foods. Cows milk and too much of it is loaded with fat and is all sugar. The calcium is readily available in real whole foods.