Brainwashed?!
Brainwashed?
Do you think people have been socially conditioned to think meat is the only source of protein and that milk is necessary for strong bones?
Answers:
No for protein, yes for milk
Meat has been touted as the only complete protein for many years; yes I know it's not.
But look at the food pyramid; it shows meat, beans, fish and poultry at the same level. Even the one that I went to school with showed it that way. If I remember right the new pyramid shows 5 to 11 serving of grain; 3 to 5 of vegetables, 3 to 5 of fruits, and 2 to 3 of mean, beans, fish, nuts, poultry, 2 to 3 of milk yogurt cheese, and fat oils sweet, it just says use sparingly.
So the information is out there, most people chose if ignore it and eat what tastes good to them.
Also, the beef industry is very good at advertising meat. Think about it when was the last time you saw an ad that said celebrate with a thick juicy piece of carrot? Never, I’ve seen similar ads for steak though.
Now a lost of people in most parts of the world see eating meat as saying I made it. Poor people in most of the world don’t eat meat very often; so one of the first things they do as they move up the economic ladder is add meat to their diet. Happen in the US, too. Immigrants came over bringing their diet with them. Their diet contained some but not a lot of meat. I’ll use Italian food for example; spaghetti, pizza, ETC. didn’t have much if any meat in it, but as the Italians move up the economic ladder their recipes started to include more and more meat.
So what I think you’re seeing is a combination of good advertising on part of the beef industry, a function of society and its perceptions and peer pressure.
By perceptions, I mean that beans have gotten a bad rap, it causes a lot of gas, and people in polite society don’t fart. Peer pressure in the way of; you are a guest and how dare you not eat what I cooked for you.
So most people know that meat isn’t the only source of protein, but they prefer the taste of meat.
Now as for milk the dairy industry has been very good at tell people milk is a good source of Calcium. True as far as it goes, but a lot of adults are lactose intolerant. But, people know that babies need a lot of calcium and all they drink is milk so therefore milk is a good source of calcium. A little nudge from the dairy industry and milk become the only source of calcium. But people don’t ask where a cow gets their calcium. After all when was the last time you saw a cow drinking milk?
I could go on but I’ll stop now.
Of couse this is just my opinion.
No, I think people make the choice of how to get protein and calcium. You may like nuts or soy for protein and someone else may like fish and cheeses.
Based on the question it appears you are saying that the powers up top in society have repeatedly tried to teach us that this is so. That meat is the only source of protein. This is not so.
What happened is that early in our development someone saw a carnivorous animal eat a not-so-carnivorous animal, and put together it might be a food source. They killed and ate something, and found out it was delicious. As more and more of us started realizing that cows taste much better than beans and nuts (except for Paris Hilton apparently, she seems to like the nuts), we just became conditioned to eat meat. It wasn't society, just happened.
As far as the milk, you do realize that the teat was designed to be pulled on (by the calf) and it doesn't hurt the cow. So what is the difference if we drink the milk or not.
no
Oh yes i really do believe that! People always tell me "Oh you're going to get sick from only eating vegetables" they obviously don't know that we don't just sit around all day eating salad (which is what most of them really believe).
uh yea! people today are crazy. im a vegitarian and i get loads of protein from beans, soy milk other good stuff and regular (%2) milk isnt really the greatest because it is hard to digest and it creates a lot of mucus.
Most people are just naturally intelligent. People eat meat because it is what humans are supposed to eat and it taste real good. You can live off vegetables and I will live off red meat and we will see who dies first. And water on cereal or Oreos dunked in tea taste like shitt.
No, that theory has been shattered for quit some time. It how I get mine, so to each is own.
I used to be a vegetarian, I could not give up pizza. I think people think protein is easier gotten from meat, milk and cheese. All of these are not healthy. I eat salmon, poultry and lots of veggies.
I got tired of tofu and tofu if no organic sits in aluminum vats.
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Definitely.
The one thing I hate is when people say something like "but you need milk for strong bones". Why can't they just educate themselves? If they were really concerned about strong bones and protein, they'd know that there's multiple sources for that and much of what they believe are just lies based off of the industries' advertisements.
I don't think there is any room for debate around this question, The dairy industry has numerous campaigns inside schools to get kids to consume more dairy products. This is not hidden information, but common knowledge. It's very clear that the motive of such campaigns is to condition kids into using dairy products for life. Meat is often included in these campaigns because of the dairy industry’s reliance on the meat industry.
yes i remember when i was kid and didn't like meat and my mom make me to eat it just to have protein for my day.
This is like me asking if PETA has brainwashed all of its members. Which i once said as a joke but i think might be becoming true. A person has the right to choose to eat meat or not meat is a good source of protein and milk is a good source of calcium but they are not the only sources. Dont you have anything better to do than question other peoples eating habits.
In GB they are. When I was a child there were an awful lot of milk avdertising campaigns on the TV with slogans like "milk has gotta lotta bottle" and "it's cool for cats" using a manipulated version of the Squeeze song "Cool for Cats"!! Even now dairy manufacturers put out commercials showing cute little cows on TV there was a butter commercial a few years ago featuring a little animated 'butter' man. It is a bit vile when you discover that milk in other countries contains 'permitted' levels of pus, flesh antibiotics, blood and hormones !!! (sorry , but this is only me telling the truth .)
I keep tight lipped when people eulogise dairy to the nth degree. They have been totally brainwashed to believe that you cannot get calcium anywhere else!!! For some reason one person I spoke to about my impending veganism said that I could cause untold dammage to my gall bladder (I nodded politely and said I'd research it but don't believe it FOR A second)
I should have given it up years ago.
I'm going Vegan in 2007!!!
I totally believe that! The only reason people in general are so anti-veggie is because we've been taught to believe that only the old "food pyramid" diet is healthy. That and the old "My grandpappy's grandpappy ate bacon and eggs every day of his life and died at the ripe old age of 93". Ya know? I mean, if you really look into it with an open mind... you find out that different societies have very different beliefs as far as what is typically eaten by its people. Take for instance the cultures in which cows are sacred. We're (we being the USA) about as opposite from that as you can get. What we eat, and what we believe we should eat is almost entirely due to what culture we've been brought up in. There are many other issues in which this also applies such as gender roles (I just found out recently in a human sexuality class that many cultures recognize more than two genders!), clothing styles and much more.
If people would stop and think about WHY things "are the way they are", they would realize that a lot of what we take for granted as "proper" or "right" doesn't really make much sense at all!
Oh yes!
It pisses me off too when they think that all vegetarians eat is like raw veggie sticks (carrots & celery) and tofu. I don't even LIKE tofu, I am vegetarian, and I eat a LOT! And a lot of different stuff too.
I am sick of non-veg.s thinking that meat is the main source of a meal. Like, without meat in the meal it aint a meal or somehting. Stupid.
Yes, I do.
Just take a look at who is making all the commercials about milk for weight loss and who makes the Food Guide Pyramid.
Yes!
I remember about 15 years ago there were those posters all over London showing a muscular man diving into a pool of clear water and they said "Eat meat!". Anyone else remembers those?
No... most people have been raised to believe that milk and meat is necessary for human growth... and even when they hear the opposite, they aren't ready to believe it. I wouldn't call it brainwashing. There are people following a certain religions since birth and they have teachings that many of us don't necessarily agree with but to them it's important.
People are told you get your calcium from milk and cheese - and no one ever mentions plant sources of calcium! Do you know why? The dairy companies pay the government to advertise their products as 'calcium for strong bones' and such but companies selling vegetables do not earn as much money and therefore do not advertise and would have to compete... the government is so corrupt
No - I think it's a personal preference. We may be raised with a certain influence then change our mind due to influence of peers or media only to switch again later in life. We are fortunate enough to live in an information age and have the information available to make informed choices - now if we could only get others to accept those choices and let us be that would be wonderful.
no it is just that people grew up with meat and potatoes
Yes I do actually. Advertisements are very effective, proof positive by these beliefs!
yes they have.they don't realize we get calcium&protein from a diet rich in dark green vegetables and beans&peas,tofu,peanut butter or other nut butters,and seeds...edamame soy pods and other soy products.
JANEROTH7: VEGETARIANS EAT PIZZA TOO! AND SO DO VEGANS!
ISUBALLS: WHY DO YOU THINK WE PUT WATER ON OUR CEREAL??? DON'T YOU THINK YOUR COMMENT IS STUPID?!?!??
Absolutely, the cattle industry would end if people knew the truth.
Yes, their family, friends and media drum this into their heads.
absolutely! it's ridiculous, there are so many other sources of protein out there besides meat that are actually good for you. same with milk and calcium. milk is meant for BABY COWS not humans, and especially not adult humans. mothers only produce milk when they become pregnant for a reason- to feed their young. there is no need for us to drink milk and thinking you have to eat meat to have a good diet is ignorant and selfish.
Pretty much. When I went vegetarian, a lot of people, particularly my family, had a fit--they all were very accustomed to eating meat, and thought I'd be horribly unhealthy, and of course be missing out on "real food".
When I went vegan, I kept it a little hush-hush, and I still really don't bring it up unless it is brought up, so to speak, because people often react in a very negative way.
We all just need to be more open minded.