People argue that vegetarian people are not as healthy as meat eaters.........?!
People argue that vegetarian people are not as healthy as meat eaters.........?
But, research has proven that if a person is born or becomes a vegetarian at an early age, they live up to ten yrs longer than meat eaters, any points of view on this?
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......this argument is moot....
carnivores and vegetarians both fall into groups, ppl who eat properly, and those who do not.
if you find sources of all the things your body requires, whether you get it from meat, soy products, etc etc, you'll be ok.
there are meat eaters that are unhealthy, and there are vegetarians that are unhealthy, and theres those in both groups that are just fine. end of story.
I believe you should eat what you like for life is to short to eat something you dislike.
well it is very true that vegitarians are healthier and live longer beacause many people like rare or red meat which is ad for your system. but if you eat seafood you are still considerd a vegitarian.
Actually do the research, vegetarians are much healthier.
I started drinking soy milk and using some veggie meat products which I like pretty good. I would like to be a vegetarian, but it seems I am always cooking for others who like meat.
I drink soy milk it helps with going through menopause, or so I heard it does. also adding flax oil to myla dressing.
i really think vegetarians are more healthy then meat eaters. but meat eaters are bigger and stronger. still, i'd rather be a vegetarian and date a vegetarian cause their body are so sexy. sorry. but im selfish like this.
(btw, imma meat eater)
Yes, research has proven that vegetarians live longer lives than meat eaters. Consult a doctor and he will advise you to cut on lipid intake from meat. Veggies are rich sources of vitamins and antioxidants.
Vegetarians are actually a lot more healthier. Eating beef and other red meat can give you mad cow disease in some rare cases and it if you eat meat as much as you might, you could get an ulcer, high cholesterol, or more.
I think the reason why vegetarians would live longer than us normal carnivors is because being a vegetarian is a lifestyle. People whom are true vegetarians have many restrictions on what to eat. They still need the iron that they cannot usually get from red meats, so they get them other ways (supplements and peanut and bean product). Most vegetarians are also health nuts, so they won't eat Mickey D's like the average American. So, right there are extra calories, processed foods, etc. that the average American eats vs the average vegetarian.
Now, if you compare an average vegetarian to a carnivor whom eats healthfully (red meat once a week, white meats like chicken and turkey, and eats seafood and/or fish once a week), you will see that a person that eats very health-consciously will live just as long as a vegetarian. The reason for this is because there is less fast foods and processed foods in their diets as well. With that, there is more portion control, so there are less calories consumed. A realy health-conscious person will be very active as well, which will lead to better health overall and a longer lifespan.
A famous once-vegetarian: Drew Barrymore. She was a vegetarian for YEARS! She started eating meat again and ended up losing weight and getting healthier because she wasn't keeping her body away from essential nutrients that meats offer us.
My opinion is that it's completely lifestyle related.
Care to cite your sources?
It's a fact that vegetables do not offer all of the nutrients that are mandatory for a human being to consume. If you become a vegeterian at an early age, your body's need for particular proteins and vitamins doesn't magically disappear. Besides, why the hell would you become a vegeterian at an early age (or ever for that matter), and deprive yourself of so much good food that's out there?
Oh yeah, I forgrot, pompous vegeterians think they're doing this world and its animals a favor - too bad their whole idealistic diet is nothing but an instance of ignorant hypocracy.
Take a look at this article, I don't have to say much more:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/...
I try to make the balance in my life. Eat meat sparingly.
Meat, and dairy products do create more mucus in the body, which is not a good thing.
people who think meat eaters are more healthy dont know hwat they're talking about and need to become more educated on the subject if they're going to make an argument about it.
My aunt is a vegiterrian and actually she is 3 times healthier then any of our other family members because she has to watch her diet so carefully on gettign enough protien. Some people decide to be a vegiterrian and then don't make sure they have enough protien and they get sick. so that all.
I think that it's worth suggesting that, to the extent that vegetarians may be healthier than the general (assumed meat-eating) public, it is likely related to the interest and attention paid to their diet. Please keep in mind that, in addition to those meat-eaters who care enough to watch what they eat, there are those who eat without any concern at all paid to the health consequences of what they eat. This latter group is included as meat-eaters, for the same reason that they can be included as trans-fat eaters, high-cholesterol eaters, high-calorie eaters, high fructose corn syrup eaters etc. Obviously this group is likely to "bring down averages" for any group they are included in.
The merits of a vegetarian diet restrictions aside, this is a very significant bias almost certainly due to show vegetarians "better off" than non-vegetarians. I think it's silly to pay so much attention to findings from studies paying so little attention to details.
You are correct, vergetarians eat protiens first hand where as meat eaters second hand, as they require the animals to process it...
Vegetarians don't actually live any longer, it just feels that way...
that research is right. vegetarianism is the healthiest life style anyone can have. my dad says that vegetarians are pale, sickly people (but did that stop me from giving up meat? nope!). but the world is so use to seeing "flurshing" meat eaters that when somthing almost slightly diffrent looking they think it's wrong. yes, vegetarians tend to be skinner, but just because obisity is taking of the U.S. doesn't mean being skinner then everyone else is a bad thing.
all in all: vegetariansim/veganism is the healthiest way to live...and the kindiest towards animals.
At Yale, Professor Irving Fisher designed a series of tests to compare the stamina and strength of meat-eaters against that of vegetarians. He selected men from three groups: meat-eating athletes, vegetarian athletes, and vegetarian sedentary subjects. Fisher reported the results of his study in the Yale Medical Journal.25 His findings do not seem to lend a great deal of credibility to the popular prejudices that hold meat to be a builder of strength.
"Of the three groups compared, the...flesh-eaters showed far less endurance than the abstainers (vegetarians), even when the latter were leading a sedentary life."26
Overall, the average score of the vegetarians was over double the average score of the meat-eaters, even though half of the vegetarians were sedentary people, while all of the meat-eaters tested were athletes. After analyzing all the factors that might have been involved in the results, Fisher concluded that:
"...the difference in endurance between the flesh-eaters and the abstainers (was due) entirely to the difference in their diet.... There is strong evidence that a...non-flesh...diet is conducive to endurance."27
A comparable study was done by Dr. J. Ioteyko of the Academie de Medicine of Paris.28 Dr. Ioteyko compared the endurance of vegetarian and meat-eaters from all walks of life in a variety of tests. The vegetarians averaged two to three times more stamina than the meat-eaters. Even more remarkably, they took only one-fifth the time to recover from exhaustion compared to their meat-eating rivals.
In 1968, a Danish team of researchers tested a group of men on a variety of diets, using a stationary bicycle to measure their strength and endurance. The men were fed a mixed diet of meat and vegetables for a period of time, and then tested on the bicycle. The average time they could pedal before muscle failure was 114 minutes. These same men at a later date were fed a diet high in meat, milk and eggs for a similar period and then re-tested on the bicycles. On the high meat diet, their pedaling time before muscle failure dropped dramatically--to an average of only 57 minutes. Later, these same men were switched to a strictly vegetarian diet, composed of grains, vegetables and fruits, and then tested on the bicycles. The lack f animal products didn't seem to hurt their performance--they pedaled an average of 167 minutes.29
Wherever and whenever tests of this nature have been done, the results have been similar. This does not lend a lot of support to the supposed association of meat with strength and stamina.
Doctors in Belgium systematically compared the number of times vegetarians and meat-eaters could squeeze a grip-meter. The vegetarians won handily with an average of 69, whilst the meat-eaters averaged only 38. As in all other studies which have measured muscle recovery time, here, too, the vegetarians bounced back from fatigue far more rapidly than did the meat-eaters.30
I know of many other studies in the medical literature which report similar findings. But I know of not a single one that has arrived at different results. As a result, I confess, it has gotten rather difficult for me to listen seriously to the meat industry proudly proclaiming "meat gives strength" in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
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Vegetarian and vegan athletes are at the top in their sports. Carl Lewis, the runner, won nine Olympic gold medals. Lewis says that he had his best performance as an athlete after he adopted a vegan diet. (source)
Ruth Heidrich, a vegan Ironman triathlete and marathon runner has racked up more than 700 first-place trophies and set several performance records. She was also named One of the 10 Fittest Women in North America.
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World Records
The achievement of vegetarian athletes are particularly noteworthy considering the relatively small percentage of vegetarian entrant. Athletes, after all, are not immune from the cultural conditioning that meat alone gives the required strength and stamina. Yet some have adopted vegetarian diets and the results invite scrutiny.
Dave Scott, of Davis, California is universally recognized as the greatest triathlete in the world. He has won Hawaii's legendary Ironman Triathlon a record four times, including three years in a row, while no one else has ever done it more than once. The event consists, in succession, of a 2.4-mile ocean swim, a 112-mile cycle, and then a 26.2-mile run.
Dave calls the idea that people, and especially athletes, need animal protein a "ridiculous fallacy." There are many people who consider Dave Scott the fittest man who ever lived. Dave Scott is a vegetarian.
I don't know how you might determine the world's fittest man. But if it isn't Dave Scott it might well be Sixto Linares. This remarkable fellow tells of the time:
"when I became a vegetarian in high school, my parents were very very upset that I wouldn't eat meat... After fourteen years, they are finally accepting that it's good for me. They know it's not going to kill me."
During the fourteen years that Sixto's parents begrudgingly came to accept that his diet wasn't killing him, they watched their son set the world's record for the longest single-day triathlon, and display his astounding endurance, speed, and strength in benefits for the American Hearth Association, United Way, the Special Children's Charity, the Leukemia Society of America, and the Muscular Dystrophy Association. So deeply ingrained, however, is the prejudice against vegetarianism that even as their son was showing himself possibly to be the fittest human being alive, his parents only reluctantly came to accept his diet. Sixto says he experimented for awhile with a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet (no meat, but some dairy products and eggs), but now eats no eggs or dairy products and feels better for it.
It doesn't seem to be weakening him too much. In June 1985, at a benefit for the Muscular Dystrophy Association, Sixto broke the world record for the one-day triathlon by swimming 4.8 miles, cycling 185 miles, and then running 52.4 miles.
Then there's Edwin Moses. No man in sports history has ever dominated an event as Edwin Moses has dominated the 400-meter hurdles. The Olympic Gold Medalist went eight years without losing a race, and when Sports Illustrated gave him their 1984 "Sportsman of the Year" award, the magazine said, "No athlete in any sport is so respected by his peers as Moses is in track and field." Edwin Moses is a vegetarian.
Paavo Nurmi, the "Flying Finn," set twenty world records in distance running, and won nine Olympic medals. He was a vegetarian.
Bill Pickering of Great Britain set the world record for swimming the English Channel, but that performance of his pales beside the fact that at the age of 48 he set a new world record for swimming the Bristol Channel. Bill Pickering is a vegetarian.
Murray Rose was only 17 when he won three gold medals in the 1956 Olympic Games in Melbourne, Australia. Four years later, at the 1960 Olympiad, he became the first man in history to retain his 400 meter freestyle title, and he later broke both his 400 meter and 1500 meter freestyle world records. Considered by many to be the greatest swimmer of all time, Rose has been a vegetarian since he was two.
You might not expect to find a vegetarian in world championship body-building competitions. But Andreas Cahling, the Swedish body builder who won the 1980 Mr. International title, is a vegetarian, as has been for over ten years of highest level international competition. One magazine reported that Cahling's "showings at the Mr. Universe competitions, and at the professional body-building world championships, give insiders the feeling he may be the next Arnold Schwarzenegger."
Another fellow who is not exactly a weakling is Stan Price. He holds the world record for the bench press in his weight class. Stan Price is a vegetarian. Roy Hilligan is another gentleman in whose face you probably wouldn't want to kick sand. Among his many titles is the coveted Mr. America crown. Roy Hilligan is a vegetarian.
Those who would object by saying that most top athletes eat meat can congratulate themselves for missing the point. The fact is that most Westerners are meat-eaters, because we've all grown up thinking it's good for us, and we like it. So of course most athletes are going to be meat-eaters too, since they're only human. These athletes perform well in spite of their diets, not because of them, and would undoubtedly perform even better if they ate less animal foods. And while reliable statistics are hard to come by, there is little doubt that athletes in general have been moving towards vegetarianism in large numbers over the past twenty years.
research has proven taht people who like to eat meat are happier when they eat it and thsoe who dont, arnet.
I can't speak for all vegetarians, but in the last six months since I stopped eating meat, I've lost 45 pounds, my blood pressure is normal again, and my blood sugars are in the normal range. My cholesterol is low-normal, and my joints and muscles don't ache the way that they used to.
I feel better than I have in years, so I'd have to say that vegetarianism has worked wonders for me.
No it hasn't. Well, according to PETA and similar groups yes, but science does not bear this out. Most studies done have shown much less difference than this, an even this can be attributed to other variables, like that veggies are very unlikely to smoke or eat junk food, etc, and generally live more health conscious lives (they have to). Likewise the vegetarian group is going to contain few slobs who drink, smoke, like of hunk food and never do any exercise, but the meat eaters of the world have them bringing their results down.
No studies have yet managed to completely eliminate all these extra variables, and thus none can be completely trusted, but the ones that have tried to have showed almost no difference between average life spans.
Basically almost any benefit of vegetarianism can be attributed to that people end up taking much more notice of their diet and health.
"Surprising as it may seem, some prior studies have shown the annual all-cause death rate of vegetarian men to be slightly more than that of non-vegetarian men (0.93% vs 0.89%). Similarly, the annual all-cause death rate of vegetarian women was shown to be significantly higher than that of non-vegetarian women (0.86% vs 0.54%)."
i feel the same
A vegertarian diet for the human species is fine as long as it is balanced. Getting sufficient balanced protein can be a problem. If you dont do research and know what proteins to eat.
There are veg. dog foods on the market that do a good job for dogs and
dogs are carnivous {meat eaters ] I have done a vast amount of research on dog foods over the years.veg foods are not popular with the dog breeder, as better results are obtained with a meat formulated diet.
a really good friend of mine is strict vegetarian, he also smokes and drinks like a mad man.
my other friend is diet concious, works out and doesnt smoke or drink.
im pretty sure the second one will live longer, i think its also how you live your life in general